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Mixed High school changing rooms

63 replies

BorgQueen · 03/12/2023 14:54

Lisa Keogh on twitter/X has written that a Scottish High school she visited last week has mixed Sex changing rooms for PE and swimming.
If that’s true it’s horrific, not to mention illegal - why aren’t the parents and students kicking up a huge fuss about it?
Most Girls don’t want to strip off in front of other Girls, let alone pubescent Boys.
How would they be able to stop pictures being taken ? why wouldn’t OFSTED be all over this safeguarding failure?

OP posts:
FrancescaContini · 04/12/2023 11:03

Sparehair · 04/12/2023 09:10

Just to be clear, is this a changing room divided into changing cubicles or is it like the changing rooms at my dc’s school which is just one big room with lockers and pegs? I find it hard to believe that it’s the latter. No parent is going to accept that.

Does the difference matter? Neither situation would be single sex.

I’m sure the Scottish FM will find a way to avoid this for his own children.

PomegranateOfPersephone · 04/12/2023 09:41

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 04/12/2023 09:35

I understand there are no single sex state schools in Scotland.

Oh wow, I didn’t know that! That really limits choices for parents who want to protect their children. Home education, private if you can afford it or move to England where we have single sex state schools, I don’t know if they have any in Wales or Northern Ireland.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 04/12/2023 09:35

PomegranateOfPersephone · 04/12/2023 09:07

If I lived in Scotland I’d be sending my daughters to Girls’ schools!

I understand there are no single sex state schools in Scotland.

Sparehair · 04/12/2023 09:10

Just to be clear, is this a changing room divided into changing cubicles or is it like the changing rooms at my dc’s school which is just one big room with lockers and pegs? I find it hard to believe that it’s the latter. No parent is going to accept that.

PomegranateOfPersephone · 04/12/2023 09:07

If I lived in Scotland I’d be sending my daughters to Girls’ schools!

Igmum · 04/12/2023 09:04

This is dreadful. I don't think any of the teenagers, boys or girls, that I know would be comfortable with this. Deeply harmful

Rightsraptor · 04/12/2023 09:02

I agree that any teacher supervising makes it worse. But it's not necessarily about 'incidents' in the changing room, it's about the erasure of boundaries, as we all know, and the behaviour this utter lack of respect can lead to outside the changing room, outside the school, just everywhere.

It's sick.

I wonder if Humza Yousaf will be happy if his daughter is in such a position in ten years' time?

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 04/12/2023 08:47

I saw this on X earlier. She claims the male teacher showing them round said that a teacher supervises the changing room to make sure there are no incidents. As dozens were pointing out, this makes it worse, not better. A teacher of either sex watching children of the opposite sex changing is an incident.

FrancescaContini · 04/12/2023 08:41

This is atrocious. I’d remove my daughter from the school immediately. WTH, Scotland??

Sirzy · 04/12/2023 08:38

That’s awful, I don’t get why anyone would think it’s a good idea.

i only have one son, he doesn’t actually get changed with everyone at all, but if his school tried anything like that I would be at the front of the protests against it.

HereForTheFreeLunch · 04/12/2023 08:28

Men really don't care, do they. (And a numbe of women)
Any idiot could tell it's a recipe for disaster for girls.
All this focus on women's and girl's sport from the Olympics, the This girl can... etc etc.. so much thought into getting girls into sport early and then they come up with this!
Girls really don't matter to these people

Rightsraptor · 03/12/2023 17:38

That's so shocking, OP. I can't begin to imagine being in that position. I know I'd definitely be skiving off games.

Hoardasurass · 03/12/2023 17:36

Unfortunately there is no ofsted in Scotland and we don't have a legal right to single sex changing or toilet facilities the way English schools do. The snp has completely drank the coolade and actively promotes this crap. We are fighting this but its an uphill battle