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Increase in the number of people identifying as transgender in the UK - UCL research from GP records

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IwantToRetire · 30/11/2023 00:31

The research, published in BMJ Medicine, is the first large-scale study in the UK to estimate the number of people whose gender identity is different to their sex assigned at birth.

To do this, the team reviewed anonymised data from 7 million individuals aged 10 to 99 years, from IQVIA Medical Research Data, a UK primary care database, between 2000 and 2018.

Researchers looked for diagnostic codes that suggested patients had spoken to their GP about gender dysphoria (a state of stress or unhappiness that one’s gender does not match their sex at birth).

They found that overall, the number of people whose records suggested they were transgender was very low. However, there was nevertheless an increase over the last two decades – rising from about one in 15,000 in 2000, to just over one in 2,500 in 2018.

The number of individuals with a health record of being transgender increased in all age groups.

Rates were highest amongst people aged 16 to 29. In 2018, around one in every 2,200 people aged 16 to 29 were recorded as transgender.

https://www.ucl.ac.uk/news/2023/nov/increase-number-people-identifying-transgender-uk

Not really surprising given current social contagion, but as a study presumably it will be widely quoted to prove any number of things.

Not forgetting that "overall, the number of people whose records suggested they were transgender was very low"

Increase in the number of people identifying as transgender in the UK

The number of people identifying as transgender in their GP records in the UK has increased between 2000 and 2018, finds a new study led by UCL researchers.

https://www.ucl.ac.uk/news/2023/nov/increase-number-people-identifying-transgender-uk

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Chersfrozenface · 30/11/2023 08:03

The number of individuals with a health record of being transgender increased in all age groups.

a breakdown by age and sex would be useful.

How many females over 29 or 39, I wonder.

nauticant · 30/11/2023 07:57

The justification seems to have changed to include people having "gender euphoria".

SaffronSpice · 30/11/2023 07:56

If/when adopting a broader definition, as many TRAs do, the definition includes gender non conforming people who do not have dysphoria or distress

What possible justification can there be for invading single sex spaces and sports, and demanding others lie about your sex and change their language if you do not have dysphoria or distress? The attempted justification due to ‘distress’ is bad enough but this is like goths demanding everywhere is painted black and no one smiles.

nauticant · 30/11/2023 07:52

people whose gender identity is different to their sex assigned at birth

This is akin to people whose eye colour is different to their shoe size.

nauticant · 30/11/2023 07:50

between 2000 and 2018

This undermines the data used significantly. "Trans" meant very different things over the period, and the cohort changed hugely.

HagoftheNorth · 30/11/2023 06:28

CheckingtheNumbers I had exactly the same reaction, especially given how many teenagers and twenty-somethings dabble with gender and then desist, I’m sure a portion of them end up with these markers on their medical records

Brainworm · 30/11/2023 03:10

Once again, the issue of the lack of a shared or dominant definition of 'transgender' presents a problem here.

If/when adopting a broader definition, as many TRAs do, the definition includes gender non conforming people who do not have dysphoria or distress. Here, some people believe that sex is not immutable an determined at conception, but is....., well, I get stuck here as we hit incoherence and mumbo jumbo. However, the people being referred to here would have no cause to see a doctor as they don't experience distress or don't seek medical intervention (well, some might/do, but again we veer into incomprehensible word salads when it comes to explanations of why physical intervention/ treatment is needed when someone isn't I'll).

The design of the research seems to be a sensible approach for exploring prevalence of gender dysphoria and distress that reaches a level that drives 'patients' to seek medical advice, but not to explore numbers relation to those with identities that don't align with how they think they should feel about their sex.

CheckingTheNumbers · 30/11/2023 01:25

Bit worried to see the repeated use of the phrase '...sex assigned at birth ...' throughout.

The study uses the presence of various NHS coding values to determine if a person is to be considered transgender or not e.g.

Eu64.00 [X]Gender identity disorders
E22y400 Gender role disorder of adolescent or adult ...

From a first skim, I could not determine if once one of these markers has appeared on a subject's record, will they always be considered transgender for the purpose of the study - i.e. I talked to my GP for a couple of months about it but then changed my mind

Can anyone with experience comment if the categories chosen as indicators are sound - i.e. could the category be indicative of something other than transgenderism?

Is it possible that some subjects have more than one coding and are counted twice i.e. can a single person have both Eu64.00 and E22y400? In Supplementary table 1, the codings are counted individually but maybe this is just for the table

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IwantToRetire · 30/11/2023 01:15

about 1/10th ... census question came up with

And yet this tiny % of the population is dictating to everyone else.

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BinturongsSmellOfPopcorn · 30/11/2023 00:54

So around 0.05% - about 1/10th of what the poorly designed census question came up with.