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Did anyone watch Doctor Who?

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ZeldaFighter · 28/11/2023 11:18

So on an existential level, I'm confused. 11 Doctors and only 1 woman - it seemed like finally progress had been made. Now we're back to male people playing the role of the teenage daughter (who is explicitly transgender, so I suppose is really OK but now women can't even play the women).

Irl, I'm embarrassed because my husband immediately realised the actor was a transgender woman, whereas I didn't twig at all 😞

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Whatsnewpussyhat · 28/11/2023 12:38

I watched it.
Many eye rolls.

The whole 'women can just let it go' bollocks annoyed me and the 'male presenting doctor'

As if wearing a skirt suddenly gave a male this so called woman ability.

The stupid stuff about rose being both male and female and nonbinary too.
Rose is male and very binary.

It was all just so completely unnecessary.

Ponderingwindow · 28/11/2023 12:26

Yes
even though I am GC, I had no significant problems with the episode.

there were a couple of lines that were a bit heavy handed, but otherwise I thought it was great. I loved Donna’s speech about how you have a child and you expect one thing and then you end up with this different but wonderful child. She was making a point about both her own child and about how her mother treats her. it was just an excellent way of making a statement of accepting people for who they are.

NanFlanders · 28/11/2023 12:16

This is a bit of a tangent, but DS and I heard something about Miriam Margoyles being turned down as the Doctor's assistant, because she wasn't as svelte as she wanted. DS observed that she was be an absolutely BRILLIANT Doctor. Posting here to get traction for the idea.

LudicrousSexFudge · 28/11/2023 12:10

I posted on the main board thread and got deleted for saying that the weaponised wheelchair was brilliant DEI but having a grown man pretending to be a teenage girl wasn't.

And one of David Tennant's children was on set wearing a saying "let's get one thing straight, I'm not" tshirt. My eyes couldn't roll enough at the thought of a prepubescent child declaring their sexuality all over the Internet. Because that's always a great idea, isn't it.

MouseLouse · 28/11/2023 11:52

I think it's fine.

Shine some light on it. They are no debate, we are not.

I'm letting the little one watch it (they are Doctor Who mad, as am I) and am ready to answer questions on the issue.

Rose is tall, boy looking, sounds like a young man, 100% clockable. Child already wonders about it, and I answer truthfully about some men dressing as women and wanting to be called women. (Like Pantomime dames? they said. lol)

It's very sad, but I think RTD was hugely harmed by childhood homophobia and now he thinks this is the next big rights issue and I can't be cross at him for that. He's a good man, but he's wrong.

I also won't ignore every programme that has a trans actor, I don't hate trans people.

MermaidEyes · 28/11/2023 11:41

Tbh I felt the Doctor, Donna and Donna's mum got more screen time than Rose anyway. Probably because their acting skills are a little better....

IWFH · 28/11/2023 11:39

Finteq · 28/11/2023 11:23

Although now that you mention it- both the main 2 characters are male now.

Which kinda sucks

While I understand your point - I think Donna was one of the two main characters.

MermaidEyes · 28/11/2023 11:34

When the new Doctor arrives next year his companion is female so back to the original format somewhat.

nauticant · 28/11/2023 11:28

There's a long discussion elsewhere:

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/telly_addicts/4950463-who-is-watching-doctor-who-tonight

Finteq · 28/11/2023 11:23

Although now that you mention it- both the main 2 characters are male now.

Which kinda sucks

Finteq · 28/11/2023 11:21

Not watching at the moment and making sure my kids don't watch it either.

Really don't want them to get confused. Explaining everything to them step by step. And having transgender characters and aliens talking about pronouns is not something they need to think about at their ages.