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Sandi Toksvig "doesn't get it", poor love....

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HootyMcBooby · 23/11/2023 13:31

Sandi Toksvig slams anti-trans bigots ‘claiming to be radical feminists’ (msn.com)

"I could weep. I don’t get it. It’s beyond me"

Yeah Sandi, I don't get it either.
How is it possible that men can say they are women and have unfettered access to females in their safe spaces?
How is it possible that we are medicating children against puberty?
How it is possible that a woman can be raped on a female hospital ward by a man claiming to be a woman and then gaslighted to be told a man was not on the ward?
How is it possible that men are claiming titles, sponsorships and medals in women's sports?
How is it possible women and females are being literally erased from so many spheres of life, including health/medicine and marketing campaigns? How come the same isn't happening to males?

As a lesbian do you like "lady penis"?
Or do you actually know that men remain men whatever surgeries they may have had, and are just on the "be kind" train?

Have you even THOUGHT about the issues this ideology ushers in?

Actually you don't need to answer that.
It's obvious.

MSN

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/sandi-toksvig-slams-anti-trans-bigots-claiming-to-be-radical-feminists/ar-AA1kpd7X?ocid=msedgntp&pc=DCTS&cvid=53a2618ee8d440d7b002ea0d8b9bd15a&ei=13

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ScremeEggs · 23/11/2023 18:48

Of course she is saying what stupid, reactionary people want to hear.🙄
Yes she's a LESBIAN, but why do you think LESBIAN's are all one mass of people who think the same?

FinallyFinalGirl · 23/11/2023 18:48

Intelligenthair · 23/11/2023 18:42

I am particularly baffled by lesbians who don’t get it. How can they possibly think it’s acceptable for sex to be erased/disregarded? Without sex there is no same sex attraction. Would Sandi accept a transwoman with a penis into her bed?

Me too....and the gay men like Owen Jones. How can they???

Being popular with the men with money must mean a hell of a lot to some people.

FinallyFinalGirl · 23/11/2023 18:45

HermioneWeasley · 23/11/2023 17:47

there is no way she doesn’t understand the issues - they are mainstream now. She can’t defend them so has to wave it away with “I don’t get it”. She chooses not to engage because it doesn’t suit her. And that’s despicable.

Like Jeremy Vine, who hosted both Paris Sleaze and Susie Green on his show yet still decided to pretend he was clueless. 'Sorry to ask, but what is happening here?'🙄 Sure Jez.

Intelligenthair · 23/11/2023 18:42

I am particularly baffled by lesbians who don’t get it. How can they possibly think it’s acceptable for sex to be erased/disregarded? Without sex there is no same sex attraction. Would Sandi accept a transwoman with a penis into her bed?

theDudesmummy · 23/11/2023 18:42

Another one who I used to think was one of the good guys and who now comes out as an absolutely world-class tit (cf Suzie Izzard).

FinallyFinalGirl · 23/11/2023 18:42

ScremeEggs · 23/11/2023 18:33

She's probably afraid of being hound by the trans-lobby then cancelled, which seems to be what happens to those who put their head above the parapet
Can't possibly be that as a woman she has her own thoughts.
Poor love must be confused, or scared into thinking the way she does.
Bless 🙄

She's a LESBIAN. She is same SEX attracted. How stupid do you think we are? Of course she is saying what stupid, reactionary people want to hear.🙄

ScremeEggs · 23/11/2023 18:33

She's probably afraid of being hound by the trans-lobby then cancelled, which seems to be what happens to those who put their head above the parapet
Can't possibly be that as a woman she has her own thoughts.
Poor love must be confused, or scared into thinking the way she does.
Bless 🙄

EmpressaurusOfCats · 23/11/2023 18:20

I heard somewhere that one of WE’s major donors is either trans or has a child who identifies as trans.

Villagetoraiseachild · 23/11/2023 18:02

Maybe Mr Menno can M.C a special edition of Q.I with Sandy on one of the panels......

WinterTrees · 23/11/2023 17:48

Next she’ll be thinking tents are a lifestyle choice and terrified people in boats are just here for the benefits.

Yes! It's the same logic, though I'm sure she'd quiver with indignant luvvie outrage at the suggestion.

HermioneWeasley · 23/11/2023 17:47

there is no way she doesn’t understand the issues - they are mainstream now. She can’t defend them so has to wave it away with “I don’t get it”. She chooses not to engage because it doesn’t suit her. And that’s despicable.

TheDogthatDug · 23/11/2023 17:41

Nasty piece of work

EmpressaurusOfCats · 23/11/2023 17:39

I’m not remotely surprised. I wish I was. Sandi Toksvig & early WEP can take credit for peaking half of FWR with their statement that women’s prisons should be mixed sex and their waffling about gender woo. Although there’s also this clip where Sandi states very truthfully that no dyke needs a penis…

https://x.com/womencansee/status/958686050171277312?s=46&t=24c39_JwRrH3k0oebVKtWw

Sandi Toksvig "doesn't get it", poor love....
literalviolence · 23/11/2023 17:31

Whether or not she knows it, Sandi is a world class bigot. She does not stand up for vulnerable women and needs to check her privilege. Her trauma as a lesbian - because of how they've been treated in the past - is clear. However, that is no excuse for her homophobic position she is now taking.

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 23/11/2023 17:23

Bouffe · 23/11/2023 16:57

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claus_Toksvig#:~:text=Claus%20Bertel%20Toksvig%20(21%20October,figures%20in%20Danish%20broadcasting%20history.

Wikipedia, I know — but her dad was Denmark's equivalent of Richard Dimbleby, and we all know how badly his sons did career wise.

And grandsons

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9790733/Profile-multimillionaire-Eton-educated-food-tsar-Henry-Dimbleby.html

JeezWhatNext · 23/11/2023 17:04

She’s just so safe she doesn’t feel the danger anymore. Very few of us ever reach that level of safe. Next she’ll be thinking tents are a lifestyle choice and terrified people in boats are just here for the benefits. Disappointing

Bouffe · 23/11/2023 16:58

KohlaParasaurus · 23/11/2023 16:45

I am more shocked to discover that Sandi Toksvig is a nepo baby than I am that she is a glaring illustration of there being none so blind as those whose income depends on them not seeing.

Touche. 😂

QueenBitch666 · 23/11/2023 16:50

WinterTrees · 23/11/2023 15:26

Sandi Toksvig has created a lucrative niche as being cosy, kind and inclusive. She's part of that core of uber-privileged luvvies - Stephen Fry, Emma Thompson, Kenneth Branagh etc - who met in the Cambridge Footlights and who have spent their lives in the cushioned bubble of the upper echelons of the media and arts, where the likes of Izzard are feted and wept over for their bravery. They know NOTHING of the lives of women sharing prison cells and spaces with violent men with female pronouns, or young girls in provincial towns who self-exclude from their football team or swimming group or gym because they don't feel safe when males join, or victims of rape who are forced to call their rapists 'she'.

Entitlement is stamped right the way through Sandi and her cronies, like sticks of rock. (What's that Sandi? You want to get paid to go on exclusive mini-breaks with fellow slebs for the telly? No problem!) No wonder she sympathises more with those who use magical thinking and make believe to put on a public front beneath a banner of #bekind than those women who live in fear, either of physical threat or loss of livelihood for speaking up. Life isn't like the GBBO tent or a Richard Curtis film for the majority of us.

👌👏👏👏

QueenBitch666 · 23/11/2023 16:48

I bet she's a TERF in the sheets 😜

KohlaParasaurus · 23/11/2023 16:45

I am more shocked to discover that Sandi Toksvig is a nepo baby than I am that she is a glaring illustration of there being none so blind as those whose income depends on them not seeing.

ArthurbellaScott · 23/11/2023 16:38

SingingSands · 23/11/2023 14:14

“I could weep. I don’t get it. It’s beyond me,” the former Great British Bake Off host said, “When the feminist movement started in the 60s and 70s, lesbians were often excluded, because we were told that we would make the movement less palatable."
“I have been excluded myself, so how could I do that to someone else? It fills me with rage.”
But it's not the same thing is it?

Excluded from what, Sandi. That's the question you ought to ask yourself.

LindorDoubleChoc · 23/11/2023 16:32

Good Lord! Of all people? I can't really believe my eyes. How saddening.

Melroses · 23/11/2023 16:27

Apollo441 · 23/11/2023 15:09

What revisionist shit is this? Claiming lesbians were excluded from the feminist movement in the 60's and 70's? Utter bollocks. They were at the forefront of the movement as you bloody well know Sandy. How else did feminist garner the slander of all being lesbians?
Is there nothing you won't say or no lie you won't tell to support this poisonous ideology?

This ^

ValerieDoonican · 23/11/2023 16:15

I'm about the same age as Sandi, and my initial experience with feminism in the 80s was wondering if I was "feminst enough" because I am (largely) straight. In my corner of East London feminism, lesbians were very much at the forefront.

Maybe her lot of feminists were somewhat homophobic, whoever they were, but I don't remember anything like that at all .