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Women physically (many middle aged and older) attacked by transactivists in Portland.

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Delphinium20 · 19/11/2023 22:14

Multiple women have been injured following an attack by men in Portland after women organized a WDI meeting at a county library. I'm absolutely disgusted that the police didn't arrive to protect these women's First Amendment rights to freedom of speech (though not at all surprised because in many US cities, the police don't care/are understaffed/overworked/dealing with gun violence). https://twitter.com/WDI_USA

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GrinitchSpinach · 24/11/2023 15:32

When they got back to the Airbnb the women recorded the speeches they had intended to give. They're up at WDI USA's YouTube now (though I think the playlist is out of order, because Kara Dansky's video is supposed to be the introduction):

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLgCCULqQ1mqE7kDS3JOS7H6ZQeUjAhpkg

Before you continue to YouTube

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLgCCULqQ1mqE7kDS3JOS7H6ZQeUjAhpkg

Woman2023 · 22/11/2023 23:36

So, if I've understood this correctly, Portland is a progressive city where they allow drugs and shoplifting so as to not criminalise people for minor offences. The end result being that it's unsafe because police won't get involved even when there's violence against women.

Sounds nightmarish.

ArthurbellaScott · 22/11/2023 22:51

Delphinium20 · 22/11/2023 21:17

I live in the US, and arming ourselves is not the answer. Women who own guns have a higher rate of that gun being used against them - men are strong and more likely at close quarters to wrestle a gun away from a woman and use it on her. Guns in the home mean your children have a higher likelihood of using them on themselves or others or against a pet.

Also, depending on the state, if a woman used a gun against a man who threw a pie at her, she'd be the one going to jail. This is more of an issue of the police not defending the First Amendment rights of the women and IWD choosing a city that is known to have a shortage of officers.

Quite.

Delphinium20 · 22/11/2023 21:17

I live in the US, and arming ourselves is not the answer. Women who own guns have a higher rate of that gun being used against them - men are strong and more likely at close quarters to wrestle a gun away from a woman and use it on her. Guns in the home mean your children have a higher likelihood of using them on themselves or others or against a pet.

Also, depending on the state, if a woman used a gun against a man who threw a pie at her, she'd be the one going to jail. This is more of an issue of the police not defending the First Amendment rights of the women and IWD choosing a city that is known to have a shortage of officers.

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BorgQueen · 22/11/2023 12:44

About time the Women in America start arming themselves or get private, armed security.
Even if it’s just a shotgun with rocksalt or a few Women with tasers, The bastards won’t try it again.

ArthurbellaScott · 22/11/2023 11:40

Violence against women is fine when Montgomerie doesn't like the women.

Helleofabore · 22/11/2023 11:37

I have been watching the reports of this event ripple through. It seems that the police will not be taking further action which is rather outrageous.

However, what I also have noticed is how extreme trans activists have used a poster who has since name changed on this forum's argument over and over since this recent event has happened. The dismissal of violence against women by male people.

I read Fred Sargeant's thread's hidden tweets and it is horrific in the number of people using that argument. It was just cream pies.... they are funny. Cream pies don't hurt anyone. And Montgomerie posted a video of a comedy sketch while forgetting, conveniently, how hard Montgomerie cried when a man threw a drink in Montgomerie's face one night.

https://x.com/KatyMontgomerie/status/1727042480330469392?s=20

I also saw someone yesterday say 'it was orange juice not pepper spray'!

Fuck this really should be shown time and time again to the public. I hope another video compilation is created of the tactics and the violence that is being done by these activists. I think we probably need one every year, this was the year that was in trans protestors if we can fit it in, or every six months. It has been a horrific year with the escalation of violence. And the Portland police doesn't seem to be interested in doing anything to get justice for the women.

https://x.com/KatyMontgomerie/status/1727042480330469392?s=20

StephanieSuperpowers · 21/11/2023 09:54

"Well I never heard anything about it..."

Kucinghitam · 21/11/2023 09:23

StephanieSuperpowers · 21/11/2023 09:17

I don't know whether I'm shocked at the amount of publicity this isn't getting.

This'll be one of those "didn't happen" or "wrong media" memory hole events.

StephanieSuperpowers · 21/11/2023 09:17

I don't know whether I'm shocked at the amount of publicity this isn't getting.

UtopiaPlanitia · 20/11/2023 22:43

Ereshkigalangcleg · 20/11/2023 21:31

Arguably there was "an immediate threat to life" so how do they determine that?

I agree; the women were being physically attacked by a mob of 50-ish disinhibited men - how is that not life-threatening??!!

Delphinium20 · 20/11/2023 22:25

While we don't have issues with US police being captured by ideology of TRAs, we do have other issues with US police (underfunding, bad attitudes, low morale, fear of weaponry from criminals who are armed often more than officers, higher overall crime rates and sky-high homicide rates) which means they are often in triage modes in many cities in the country.

My one and only criticism of WDI is they should consider holding events in suburbs or areas where the local police have better resources. Portland is not the place, IMO.

And yes, agree w/ earlier posters that Portland used to be this lovely, counter-culture city that was warm-hearted, safer and generally had a high standard of living up through the 90s and early 2000s. Progressive cities USED to be great places to live.

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 20/11/2023 21:31

Arguably there was "an immediate threat to life" so how do they determine that?

IwantToRetire · 20/11/2023 20:29

I thought I had posted an article from Reduxx but doesn't seem to be here. Or it is and I cant see it! So sorry if this is a duplicate.

Anyhow, re Portland Police policies - this is relevant - and a revalation. Can you imagine a policy like this country wide - or even in the UK????

they were told by officers that the department’s official policy is to “not to get involved” in group conflicts “unless there is an immediate threat to life.”

Unbelievable.

... the women, who had rented accommodations together, had awoken Sunday morning to discover that their tires had been slashed during the night. They also discovered that flyers with photos referring to some of the more well-known women had been posted in public, calling them “anti-trans bigots.”

https://reduxx.info/women-protesting-gender-ideology-attacked-by-trans-activists-antifa-in-portland/

Women Protesting Gender Ideology Attacked By Trans Activists, Antifa In Portland - Reduxx

A group of women critical of gender ideology were physically assaulted in Portland by masked trans activists associated with Antifa, resulting in several women being taken to the hospital. Leaders and members of the US chapter of Women’s Declaration In...

https://reduxx.info/women-protesting-gender-ideology-attacked-by-trans-activists-antifa-in-portland

Ereshkigalangcleg · 20/11/2023 18:50

Surely before these thugs even got to the Library, they should have been stopped by the police

The police weren't interested from start to finish. It's pretty lawless there when it comes to rioting etc.

As @Helleofabore said there was a previous event where women were attacked, this followed the pulling out of KJK in her American tour because she was directly and credibly threatened with death by Portland trans activists. Some of the women decided to hold an event anyway and were attacked.

BromCavMum · 20/11/2023 18:49

I'm originally from Portland and I went back a few months ago to see family. It had been a few years and I was shocked at how this once beautiful city has been turned into a hell hole thanks to 'progressive' democrats. Drugs and homeless everywhere, Downtown emptied of businesses due to crime. I found out they elected a DA who refuses to prosecute shoplifting. Also, the police budget was drastically reduced (thanks to Defend the Police) and the result was that gun crime rose massively. Most of the gun deaths are minorities. There are lots of these woke types there who refuse to believe it's their broken policies and authoritarian intolerance that are ruining the city. That city should warn anyone off of progressive politics. Those they claim to defend are thrown under the bus for their nutcase ideology.

Childrenofthestones · 20/11/2023 18:32

The guys on the Fleccas Talks channel made a very good observation. Whenever trans people get upset they tend to return to their iriginal gender.
So whenever a trans man gets misgendered, nine times out of ten they make a yt clip breaking down in tears about it. Meanwhile whenever a transwoman is misgendered they become hypemasculine about it (see "THAT'S MA'AM OR WELL TAKE IT TO THE CAR PARK!" or to Ben Shapiro " Be careful what you say or you'll go home in an ambulance" 😅

EasternStandard · 20/11/2023 17:45

fromorbit · 19/11/2023 22:36

The details are terrifying.

An event organised in a Portland by Women's Declaration International, USA was targeted by violent anarchists and assorted male trans" rights supporters. In the run up to the event cars vandalised, gun threats were issued and women were stalked. Security told the women they could not keep them or the library staff safe; too many men showed up threatening violence. The women decided to give their speeches on the street outside the library after threats seemed to risk library staff. In response multiple men carried out violent attacks. Women were punched, kicked, pepper sprayed and pushed to ground. Cameras were stolen some short summaries :

Melinda's phone was seized and smashed before she was hit in the face with a full can of pepper spray. This is male terrorism against women.

"I was blinded and in a lot of pain...They kept hitting her [Lierre] and hitting her."

Sam: "They punched me in the face, and when I fell down they kicked me in the head...Women don't deserve this. Men have no right to do this. This has to stop."

"I was standing there holding the banner with some other women, and some guys started throwing things at us...beer bottles...yellow liquid."

Not only did the men pepper spray and knock Cass down, breaking her glasses, they also attacked an elderly female passerby who had nothing to do with WDI USA's event.

"They came down two sides of the street and quickly surrounded us..I was knocked to ground...I was kicked..."

Multiple WDI USA women called 911 as the men pepper sprayed, punched, kicked, and threw objects at them while stealing and breaking their phones and cameras. Portland Police officers did not arrive to protect the women exercising their 1A rights.

Everyone is safe now, but the women have many injuries. Police did not respond to several 911 calls during the attack.

We'll do our best to get some of the women's bodycam footage out as soon as possible.

The cowardly men tore at least two of the GoPros off women's bodies while assaulting them, then ran away with the cameras.

WDI twitter page has short video interviews with multiple women who were attacked:
https://twitter.com/WDI_USA

Women who speak up in the US are running huge risks and are so brave. However clearly keeping silent is not an option. Either they confront male domination and violence now or it will come after them or their kids in the future.

Bloody hell

I don’t know why we keep seeing this and can’t change what’s causing it

IwantToRetire · 20/11/2023 17:41

I've seen some posts on facebook from women who were there and in addition to the violence, apparently many had their mobile phones stolen. (To make sure no video clips of the attack were available?)

Some are appealing for help to buy new phones. Not sure how those of us here in the UK can help, but am really shocked by this.

Also, wasn't there a time, where people were not allowed to walk round the streets masked (ie no covid masks but face covering, usually black)? Surely before these thugs even got to the Library, they should have been stopped by the police. Its obvious that anyone dressed like this is intent on violence.

StephanieSuperpowers · 20/11/2023 17:09

Be kind - or else.

UtopiaPlanitia · 20/11/2023 16:53

ArthurbellaScott · 20/11/2023 14:57

That stuff is swivel-eyed levels of misinformation and falsehood - it’s written in a very inflammatory tone, all the better to gee up the excitable troops obviously. With that level of 'discourse' some poor woman is going to be hospitalised by the thugs using that propaganda as their excuse. And, it being the US, someone might be shot.

Totally irresponsible, ageist and deeply misogynistic behaviour from those who’ve convinced themselves they’re on 'the right side of history'.

ArthurbellaScott · 20/11/2023 14:57

Discussion from supporters of the violence:

https://twitter.com/AlissaAzar

https://rosecityantifa.org/articles/WDI-USA/

archive:

https://archive.ph/7YPJQ

https://twitter.com/AlissaAzar

Datun · 20/11/2023 14:02

Men everywhere are rejoicing in the new opportunities to gaslight, groom and assault women and children.

Yep.

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