F…ing co-op

Well done and thank you to your DH.

What other groups are the Co Op making tannoy announcements about?

Jo Bartosch:
^^
"While there is nothing wrong with paying respects to those who have been killed, the problem with Transgender Day of Remembrance is that it gives the misleading impression that trans people in the UK are under constant threat. For instance, an Evening Standard article shared by Khan piously opined that Transgender Day of Remembrance marks the ‘memory of transgender people whose lives were lost in acts of anti-transgender violence during the year’.

Thankfully, there are no confirmed examples from the past 12 months of anyone who has been murdered as a result of transphobic bigotry in the UK. One trans-identified teenager, Brianna Ghey, was tragically killed in February. However, the full details surrounding the case, such as the motives of the suspects, have yet to be made public."

https://www.spiked-online.com/2023/11/17/the-myth-behind-transgender-day-of-remembrance/

Three MEN made a speech. Because men do like to centre themselves - whether or not they like to think of themselves as women

And to respond to the OP, all these awareness days, weeks, months, are the determined attempt to prop up the belief in something that is not real. Say it enough times, repeat the mantras, and destroy the reputations of the non-believers, and you can make Trans real!! Also, you win the virtue points.

But Trans is not real. It is made up. You all know this, right?

I complained to co-op after I had to do my shopping in our village store listening to the Rolling Stones ‘Under My Thumb’ on co-op radio which includes lovely lyrics such as

“It’s down to me
The difference in the clothes she wears”
and
“Under my thumb
Is a squirming dog who's just had her day”

The man I spoke to really didn’t seem to understand why I had a problem with it and I never received the further response I asked for.

Anyway, to respond to the OP, I agree that it would be far preferable for businesses to not endorse quasi-religious beliefs in the name of looking all nice and kind.

Yeah, let's be straightforward. Show me the bodies @Newsenmum, and compare them to murdered women who do not have an awareness week. Show me.

The Co-Op next me supports numerous local charities, including the special needs school up the road and another that supports kids with cerebral palsy.

Raising awareness and money for good causes means I'll cross the road to shop in Co-op over the Sainsbury's Local.

Hang on - the utterly shameful treatment of the gay man Alan Turing has now been co-opted for the trans cause? What the fuck?? Trying to rewrite history as well as destroy science now?

I don’t know how anyone can make these melodramatic statements without thinking the follow up questions - how many? Where? Who is doing the killing? Why? Stats over time? Comparison with other group numbers? Etc etc etc.

@Newsenmum i can’t speak for OP but the reason an announcement like the one at coop would “upset” me is that it perpetuates a lie. Transgender “remembrance” suggests that trans people are at risk of murder at a greater rate than other people. No matter how you analyse the data, trans people simply are not at greater risk of murder than other people. I think it is also untrue that trans people die by suicide at a greater rate than others who suffer mental health challenges (but I would have to search to find the confirming data).

He was. Exactly the same drugs used on children today.

Wasn’t Turing drugged with chem castration drugs (yes same ones…)?

DH was livid and had to stop himself interrupting to say that Alan Turing was gay. Not trans. DD is gay so DH is particularly defensive of keeping the T and LGB separate.

I feel that your DH and I would agree that the ignorance and indifference to the reality of history is breathtaking.I've never forgotten the claim that Turing was trans and that (I paraphrase) the hormone treatments he was compelled to take were actually him taking cross-sex hormones.

That's a particular horrible example and the author correctly identifies that one enthusiastic baptiser of the dead describes Turing as "one of the first Gay men to go on estrogen"

Turing was given DES as a form of chemical castration - and that was presented as an option to imprisonment.

Alan was prosecuted under the Labouchere Amendment of 1855, a law that made homosexuality (“gross indecency”) a crime. In an arranged plea deal, Alan accepted chemical castration by way of Diethylstilbestrol (DES) in lieu of prison and upon conviction he was stripped of all security clearances and forbidden entry into the United States.

williamaferguson.substack.com/p/trans-out-your-dead

Why aren’t more stores/companies pro women? If they really want to stand out / virtue signal / be right on PLUS appeal to half the population, that’s what they should do. Wow. I didn’t realise how clever I was, til then.

I stopped using the Co-op years ago,when they refused to pay farmers the cost of producing milk. They were all about fair trade,until it was on their doorstep.
Bunch of canting hypocrites.

yeah I am sick of the politicisation of everywhere. Just fuck off and allow us to exist without tryingo make us think a certain way.

I said slowly when I meant quickly😂

DH is a diversity and inclusion officer for his department in the company he works for. He joined so that he could stop them converting all of the women’s toilets to unisex.

Today they put the pride flag out and the 3 trans women who are in the company made a speech. They talked about Alan Turing (DH is in tech) and about how he was pushed to suicide.

DH was livid and had to stop himself interrupting to say that Alan Turing was gay. Not trans. DD is gay so DH is particularly defensive of keeping the T and LGB separate.

1. The suicide claims are often based on self-reported feelings, not actual acts.
2. It's never NOT either Trans something, or about to be.
3. Women get one lousy day a year and it's usually hijacked by men in dresses.

People who think of themselves as trans certainly exist. It doesn't follow that we all agree that trans is a thing in itself. The idea of being trans is the idea that there is something to being a woman or a man that is not based on biology. Many of us would say that if such a thing is not based on biology, it can only be based on sexist stereotypes. This is something we do not support.

What makes it appropriate for a shop to give such statements? Women exist. Between one and two women are killed every week in the UK by their current or previous male partners. Would it be appropriate for shops to announce at shoppers that the safety of women is important and that the shop supports women's rights and condemns the murder of women? Why isn't Co-Op doing that?

The same type of empathy that trans activists have for women? Threats of violence? Being told to die? Demanding acceptance without exception?

Please do not try to guilt women.