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Female pool player Lynne Pinches refuses to play transgender opponent and walks off at start of match

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IwantToRetire · 14/11/2023 19:14

A pool player has forfeited her chance to win a top national title in protest at the sport allowing a transgender woman to compete against natal females.

Lynne Pinches packed up her cue and walked off as the final of the Ladies Champions of Champions got under way over the weekend.

Spectators clapped and cheered Pinches’ protest while her opponent, Harriet Haynes, appeared bemused before later picking up the trophy by default.
Pinches had been among a host of top female players to speak out in recent days over transgender women being allowed to compete against them in elite competitions.

More Female pool player Lynne Pinches refuses to play transgender opponent and walks off at start of match (yahoo.com)

Female pool player Lynne Pinches refuses to play transgender opponent and walks off

A pool player has forfeited her chance to win a top national title in protest at the sport allowing a transgender woman to compete against natal females.

https://uk.sports.yahoo.com/news/female-pool-player-lynne-pinches-141515605.html

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WickedSerious · 12/12/2023 12:19

Boiledbeetle · 12/12/2023 10:58

So for the mixed HH is being the man half?

I'd assume so,if his partner's a man they're not a mixed pair.

InefficientProcess · 12/12/2023 11:34

BezMills · 12/12/2023 10:53

Doesn't matter if HH scraped in or sailed in, HH is still taking a spot that HH has no right to take, and depriving a woman of her spot.

I agree with this too.

we simply shouldn’t need to be finding reasons why biological men should not be taking spaces in competitions and in job roles and in any other situation that are reserved for biological women.

duc748 · 12/12/2023 10:59

I agree, Bez.

Boiledbeetle · 12/12/2023 10:58

duc748 · 12/12/2023 10:41

No, it's a man and a woman. And as I said upthread, the differences are more marginal; it's not a Lia Thomas situation, HH isn't head and shoulders better than the other women players, just competitive with them. Not that that makes it OK.

So for the mixed HH is being the man half?

BezMills · 12/12/2023 10:53

Doesn't matter if HH scraped in or sailed in, HH is still taking a spot that HH has no right to take, and depriving a woman of her spot.

duc748 · 12/12/2023 10:41

No, it's a man and a woman. And as I said upthread, the differences are more marginal; it's not a Lia Thomas situation, HH isn't head and shoulders better than the other women players, just competitive with them. Not that that makes it OK.

DinoDays · 12/12/2023 08:32

So the mixed won't be mixed then? Just 2 men against a mixed couple?

If I've got that right, shame on the man playing with HH.

Or is it any sex pair?

duc748 · 11/12/2023 22:52

So my take on this is that the other women players have all agreed to 'play nice' (or, possibly, never thought they had a problem in the first place), bearing in mind the finals are literally on live television. Anyway, we'll see in a week's time.

duc748 · 11/12/2023 22:39

So it seems HH is playing in the current mixed pairs competition. The finals night is next week, and apparently HH is involved, although as far as I know, not been televised so far. I saw Jack Whelan and Emma Cunningham go through tonight and I hope they win it.

SinnerBoy · 09/12/2023 16:45

TrainedByCats · Yesterday 18:30

Beside each amount theres an edit option. I always go to the crowdjustice donation option and change it to 0 - let’s me contribute more to the direct cause.

Thanks, if I donate via them again, I'll have a better idea. I didn't want to delete the actual donation, so flapped a bit!

TrainedByCats · 09/12/2023 14:37

I think any Settlements where they have happened have been small and I believe they typically go to those bringing the case. Whilst (hopefully) we’re collectively funding the legal fees through CrowdJustice those funds can only be paid directly for legal fees and there’s a lot of additional costs including lost salary that women bringing the case incur and end up paying themselves

Needmoresleep · 09/12/2023 14:20

I wondered. If there is a settlement, what happens to the money.

I note that FairPlay for Women are involved, and I really want to see a legal case brought to confirm the principle of dividing sport by biological sex. Would any spare money be carried forward to the next FPW case?

Didsomeonesaydogs · 09/12/2023 13:57

NutellaEllaElla · 09/12/2023 12:59

I appreciate them pausing it, I don't like the automatic stretch targets. Raise funds as needed. Unfortunately other people need to do so as well.

Even more evidence of her integrity.

NutellaEllaElla · 09/12/2023 12:59

I appreciate them pausing it, I don't like the automatic stretch targets. Raise funds as needed. Unfortunately other people need to do so as well.

ATowerOfGiraffes · 09/12/2023 12:02

Their email update via crowd justice says page paused;

Update on Let women play pool!

Thanks to the amazing generosity of our supporters, we've now raised £20,050 and will allow Peter from Doyle and Clayton to begin preparing our discrimination case. We have paused the page and will relaunch if further funding is required but will endeavour to keep you updated as we proceed

Chersfrozenface · 09/12/2023 10:45

Timefordrama · 08/12/2023 20:16

Hmm, wonder what's happened? I've emailed Crowd Justice, will see what they say.

I can't see any Pledge / Donate button on Crowd Justice on any of my devices today.

Anything further on this?

ArthurbellaScott · 09/12/2023 09:48

Brilliant. Well done that woman.

Timefordrama · 08/12/2023 20:16

Hmm, wonder what's happened? I've emailed Crowd Justice, will see what they say.

Boiledbeetle · 08/12/2023 19:40

Timefordrama · 08/12/2023 19:25

I've just tried to dig, but there isn't a pledge button. Is that because there's a stretch target?

There was before, but the screen has changed!

Timefordrama · 08/12/2023 19:25

I've just tried to dig, but there isn't a pledge button. Is that because there's a stretch target?

duc748 · 08/12/2023 19:04

I'm watching the snooker Shoot-out. I see that Barry Pinches, son of the more famous Lynne 😀is due to play tonight.

Boiledbeetle · 08/12/2023 18:50

I like the fact that someone was annoyed enough about the odd £1 that they donated £9 to round the figure up to a clean £20 050!

AutumnCrow · 08/12/2023 18:48

Thanks, @Boiledbeetle - very useful.

AutumnCrow · 08/12/2023 18:47

NutellaEllaElla · 08/12/2023 18:40

What is this 'stretch' target about?

I think that when when a crowd funder hits its target, Crowd Justice calculates a new target, the 'stretch target'. I don't know if it's based on an algorithm that takes into account the speed at which the original target was reached, and the amount of individual donations, but I suspect so as this stretch target is ambitious. Achievable, though.