DD feeling bad after mis-gendering sub teacher.

Good job "they" don't teach in early years isn't it

Often happens - I’m a female teacher and have been called sir, mum and dad numerous times. I get kids names wrong too sometimes!
Same here. Any adult who emotionally falls apart or snaps at children for a slip of the tongue like this shouldn't be teaching.

How do you know the teacher is biologically male?

Honestly I wouldn’t worry about it.

My friend is a teacher and because she has short hair she gets called sir all of the time.

It only gets offensive if someone is intentionally misgendering them.

Did the teacher not say I’m Miss….

Ironically this aggressive dominance and lack of respect for a female child reminds me much more of one sex than the other 🧐

Yes!!

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I agree.

I would email the school to complain that your child was unfairly and unprofessionally reprimanded in public, and is now stressed upset and confused, and I would ask that to avoid this situation in future, any substitute teachers state at the beginning of the class how they prefer to be addressed. I would also remind the school that all school staff have a legal obligation to respect and not discriminate against gender critical children, ie that staff cannot insist that preferred pronouns are used, they can only request this. I would remind them of the Prime Minister’s stance on the issue that “A man is a man”.

Ironically this aggressive dominance and lack of respect for a female child reminds me much more of one sex than the other 🧐

If bullies aren’t called out, they get worse. Particularly those who psychologically bully children.

I would also be very clear to my child about the politics to all this and I would discuss my views on what the “Be kind” movement has become.

she isn't in trouble the teacher was being an arsehole and shouldn't have embarrassed your Dd. Even teenagers do t know if they are coming or going with this nonsense , the teacher should have introduced themselves because look like a man and all that !

I'm not really sure why people are acting like your DD was given a hard time and "how dare they!!!" All they did was correct her. If you don't agree with the political side that's one thing, but to act like they gave her a hard time because she misgenered them is crap. They made one comment and left it. Shes not in trouble and seems a touch dramatic.

OP sorry your DD has been made to feel this way in a place where she should feel safe and protected.
Isnt this world hard enough for our kids without having to worry about 'pronouns' in their safe learning place?.
Stop projecting this bollocks on our children and let them find their way in this world without feeling judged or scared to have their own opinions.

Not relevant to my point. In that case the experimenters (a) removed irrelevant markers (b) directed attention specifically to the question of sex. We have multiple people on this thread saying that their sex is frequently misidentified, under real world conditions.

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If someone tells you how to address them and you address them incorrectly, they are allowed to correct you. Trans issue aside, take my teacher who just wanted to be called “Elaine”, if I called her Sarah instead, or “Miss”, she would have corrected me, because that’s not how she asked to be addressed.

The snapping is an absolute no, of course. But whether you like it or not the world is changing, and I don’t think it’s a hugely onerous task to teach children to just respect how other people want to label themselves regardless of whether you agree or disagree with it.

Scientists have done experiments in which participants watched silhouettes of people walking and had to state whether male or female. The accuracy rate was close to 100%. Survival depends upon knowing whether a man or woman is approaching you in the dark. We don’t even need to know detail to tell.

I've been read as male more times than I can count. I am definitely female.

She was right.

“Sir” and “Miss” are not pronouns.

Ultimately, an adult should be aware that being mis-sexed (if that's what happened), or 'mis-gendered' (if that's what happened) is likely not deliberate or malicious, nor a fatal blow to one's sense of self, and therefor snapping at a teenager is not an appropriate response.

If this person is telling a child off for using the wrong pro nouns then they are forcing their beliefs on the child.

Even if the person is saying call me "Ms X" and the child is being told off for "Mr X", then the person is wrong. They are going to have a very long and stressful career if they are going to do this to every child that gets this wrong.

I wouldn’t just leave it and didn’t when dd was expected to address her clearly bearded and male teaching assistant as “Mx” absolutely bloody ridiculous. I wrote an email informing them this would likely create issues for my autistic child and under no circumstances was there to be any drama made around this situation. I’m concerned that your dd would believe herself to be “in trouble” though. Time for a crystal clear conversation on why this is a nonsensical non issue and she’s not for one moment to worry about it.

I think it’s much easier to mistake a woman for a man, than a man for a woman.

in my experience anyway (and I don’t mean the filtered or photoshopped pictures on social media)