New statistics realised of reported murders of trans people

Sex buyers are a particularly murderous demographic.

That's all these stats show.

And we know it already but since trans activists are also desperate to promote men's rights to buy sex, it's not the conclusion they draw.

Especially in countries in Asia and Latin America where MTF are more likely to be feminine-presenting gay males, than the types we are used to in the U.K.

Not all men do, but some do. Many men are essentially bisexual but married to women. Some know what they are getting, and with some it's not necessarily obvious until it comes down to sexual intercourse.

I'm bemused at the idea of trans individuals working as sex workers, prostitutes.

I mean how does that even work?
The majority of clients are male, looking for a female hole, trans tend to lack the suitable hole.
Not all men would want to engage in what is essentially gay sex, putting their tackle into a poop hole. 🤔

Not saying it's right to murder anyone but I can see how certain males could become enraged when they realise they've been had.

*These are subjected

This are subject to significant fluctuations in the small numbers which can considerably affect the rate, if you look at the tables year on year 51 trans people are reported as murdered in the US for the 2021/2 period, while 31 are reported for 2022/3.

If anyone wants to look at the tables for different years and compare, here they all are.

transrespect.org/en/research/tmm/

If 48% of 320 were known to be sex workers, that is at least 153 transwomen working as prostitutes killed.

Good point

Exactly, but apparently Brianna’s stabbing was more worthy of media coverage 🙄

Ok,fair enough. I just hate how quickly Brianna’s murder was linked to Transphobia when we don’t actually know the what the motives were.
We had Trans Activists rushing to claim this as proof of #TransGenocide, vigils by football clubs etc, when tragically there are many teenagers knifed to death and we rarely get the same reaction.
I guess we’ve always had the deserving and the undeserving in society.

I'm not sure, I don't think I have seen a figure for number of trans prostitutes anywhere, I can imagine it would be hard to get a reliable number.

With prostitution, are trans prostitutes at a higher risk than others? (Compared either against female or male prostitutes operating in similar circumstances.)

Exactly.

Just like the activists who keep insisting that young people who are 'deprived' of surgical or medical mutilation are 'likely to commit suicide'. They are hoping that youngsters will respond to the loosely-veiled call to self harm in the interests of the Cause.

These people don't care about the individuals themselves; it's just point-scoring. Disgusting!

Isn't it the case that men who want to murder will often choose prostitutes because a) by definition they are going to have access to them (by "buying" them) and be able to be in a position to get them alone somewhere isolated (after all, no prostitute takes her punter to a crowded shopping mall), and b) they are already on the fringes of society - perhaps homeless and/or drug users - so they feel that they won't be pursued as much because society won't care so much about their murder? The murderer may not even know that the person they've picked up is trans, they just want to kill and the person's trans status is incidental.

Throw in the potential for an angry punter to find that the "woman" they've purchased is no such thing and it seems that there would automatically be a big cross-over between murder and prostitution. The figures don't seem to pick that apart.

Yes, I believe it's still the case, though the numbers are tiny. But trans rights activists can't expect to have their cake and eat it that the tiny number of murders is significant but the tiny number of murders they perpetrate is not.

I'm sure I recall a thread sometime back where it was argued convincingly with stats that over a period of several years, in the UK, there were more trans people in prison for murder than trans victims of murder in the same period. (But the numbers were v small, of course)

Margot - I'm sure you're right about the statistics in the UK. But worldwide, I think the statistics must be extremely unreliable. Probably homicide statistics in general, but the trans subset in particular.

It must be gangs of GC women marauding around the favelas of Brazil.

Very good to have data on this and it's not obscured by insisting TWAW and lumping the two together.
I would be very interested to see data on who is killing them as
well.

Whorephobia’??!

God, your ideology really is disgusting isn’t it? Could you make your hatred of women clearer? Even when you are trying to be all pseudo academic, you just can’t stop the woman hatred leaking out, can you?

I half expected them to include Audrey Hale, thankfully they didn't, although as I said they did include a couple of other people committing crimes who were killed by the police in a shootout.

https://www.queermajority.com/currents/tdor-trans-death-and-trans-life

This is from a few years ago, a trans identifying person went through the figures and found issues with the way trans murders are presented, and even with the people who are claimed dead from 'anti-trans violence'. For example, the people listed as murdered from 'anti-trans violence' included someone who died of natural causes while flying.

They also have a considerably lower murder rate than the general population in the US.

Why should I interpret this data in terms of gender identity and not sex?

The correct comparator for a "trans woman" is a male of the same race. And consistently males who are transgender/gender incongruent have a lesser rate of homicide than other members of the same race and sex, at least in the US.