Non Binary Gym Changing Rooms

It does not matter if its only one bloke on Tuesday mornings when pinned down. The fact is that if getting undressed on the premises now involves the risk of finding yourself stripping off in front of a random bloke who by walking in has declared his entitlement to use you and your body and his zero care for your boundaries, consent, access or humanity because he has needs ....

then a hell of a lot of women just now cannot risk using the site for that which it was intended. It is no longer accessible. It's like telling a wheelchair user: we mostly have ramps, but sometimes we'll take them all away because another customer pouts at the sight of them. So come and good luck, you might be able to use your membership or you might not, but you're not as an important customer as the pouty one so we're not bothered about your reliable access or equality. But crack on with paying us the same for services you might not be able to use.

What wheelchair user is going to say ok, I've got time to fuck about seeing whether or not I'm included today and I'll suck up all your risks as opposed to fuck it, I'll go find somewhere with a brain that actually gets accessibility and isn't busy kissing up to ridiculous and prejudiced political positions?

I would also ask for clarification on this class. You need to know at what times it could be possible for a group of men to walk in while you're naked.

"One person connected to the gym" replied? And "nothing to worry about it's only for one class"?

That looks like an "escalate to management". Formal letter to management asking if the gym is starting mixed-sex shared changing rooms, ask how they will ensure that your privacy and safety are respected, enclose a copy of the emails, and say you will resign (and ask for a refund) if they can't give a satisfactory answer.

Do not explain to them. Let them explain themselves to you. Wait for them to tell you why they think mixed-sex changing rooms are a good idea. With any luck they will backtrack.

Ours has this but with lots of cubicles so not a problem

Who is in this class that makes the gym so proud to be changing the rules?

We need to stop thinking of these males as a type of women.

My friends 19 year old daughter was at a central London bar on Saturday. She needed the loo so went into the ladies where she was followed in by a very obvious TW who went into the first cubicle (despite others being available) and sat peeing with the door wide open meaning anyone walking in would be immediately presented with that view and hade to walk past to get to the other cubicles. Deliberate??
And is that something the vast majority of women would do? I certainly don’t remember peeing with the door wide open in my many years on this planet.

Yes, that's deliberate. And no.

I think if you have experience of domestic violence you are even more likely to feel vulnerable in mixed sex spaces.

And yes.

My local council swimmng pool/gym also has all 3 options, as well as individual poolside cubicles.

My friends 19 year old daughter was at a central London bar on Saturday. She needed the loo so went into the ladies where she was followed in by a very obvious TW who went into the first cubicle (despite others being available) and sat peeing with the door wide open meaning anyone walking in would be immediately presented with that view and hade to walk past to get to the other cubicles. Deliberate??
And is that something the vast majority of women would do? I certainly don’t remember peeing with the door wide open in my many years on this planet.

That’s been going on with public swimming pools for ages, mainly so families can change together. I hate them though ,mainly because I like to shower without a swimming costume (get off chlorine) and feel odd walking back to the locker naked under the towel. Also single gender changing rooms are usually quite friendly places.
Some David Lloyds and some gyms abroad have all three options which is much better (woman, man and family).

This!

I think if you have experience of domestic violence you are even more likely to feel vulnerable in mixed sex spaces.
As you’ve lost the ‘it only happens to other people’ factor. Same with any experience you have had in life.

Males are more violent than women and women are far more at risk of being seriously injured or killed by their partner in the home than men are.

She didn't actually mention anything about it being at home. She said violent men, which clearly means sexual violence as well. She's right, as I said. The majority of rape and sexual assault victims are raped and sexually assaulted by someone they know. That counts as "easy access to victims" too.

I agree with you that DV is not the topic of this thread. DV is MVAWG like rape and sexual assault are, but not strictly relevant here.

I'm just saying I think the issues in changing rooms are distinct from male violence at home and should be focused on separately. Trying to shoehorn in partner violence just undermines it for me.

So women are concerned about their husband flashing them at home?

When women are concerned about men in their changing room they are concerned about sexual assault, flashing etc. Not domestic violence.

Whataboutery.

It said 'violent men attacking women'. This to me includes DV.

The point the pp made that you responded to was about sexual assault, not other violence against women.

I didn't say sexual domestic violence.

Sexual domestic violence isn't "bidirectional" and most women are raped by someone they know.

What do you mean by ‘bidirectional’ @CaramacFiend ?