Meet the new CEO of Endometriosis South Coast

Sorry if I missed it, but I don't think she said it was from a woman.

I was surprised by the threats Jodie received. Die in a fire is unusual from women. I did wonder if Steph had any such threats in their history. It would make an interesting comparison.

Oh I now know so many "charities" where it's not about the cause at all,

She had clearly realised what a horrible, terrible mistake she had made in doing this interview.

Yes but I feel as the founder of a charity for a condition that affects women and has been terribly neglected, she needs to get her head around how angry women are about individuals like Steph and yet more gaslighting from everyone saying they're helping women . Or people rather 🙄

I think we have to get out of the mindset that "charity" is always all about well-being people just doing their bit. The Captain Tom debacle should be a lesson that people can use the guise of charity to promote themselves, earn a tonne of cash and promote their own agendas that are not benign.

You're right, that was kind - would be very interested in hearing more about her research. The anger was all aimed at Steph. The cringe part for me was hearing the upset in Jodie's voice near the end. She had clearly realised what a horrible, terrible mistake she had made in doing this interview.

Having seen some posters who claim they have a PhD a thread topic and their lack of ability to present one skerrick of evidence or even a fact to defend their position, I don’t believe someone has to be highly intelligent to gain that qualifications.

Quite the contrary. Not only that but some posters with these supposed qualifications resort to very blatant emotional manipulation to try to convince. I suspect some people with this qualification have phd mentors that give huge assistance.

Yesterday, Steph was boasting about being invited onto Women's Hour.

He's loving the attention/trolling.

Jodie sounds like she's a useful idiot.

I don't feel sorry for them at all, either Jodie or Steph. They could have said no to being invited on. They chose to do the interview. If you set up a charity that asks, in whatever way, for donations from the public and for grants from organisations - you are responsible for running that charity properly. You are accountable. If that's not something you can manage then don't go through the process of setting up a charity! Or get proper help to set it up.

I'd have no issue if this charity decided to change its remit and focus on helping non-binary female people and transmen with dealing with endo. It's niche but if that's who they are interested in supporting then fair enough.

I have no sympathy. You have to be shockingly stupid and/or naive to agree to go on a national radio show with countless millions of listeners without being able to justify and explain your position in clear and simple terms.

Jodie and Steph were not doorstopped or accosted in the street, they were invited and agreed to come on. They can’t cry “the big girl was mean to us” now.

Reminds me of that bloke who was in Trump's cabinet who was a literal brain surgeon (apparently a very good one), but also thought the pyramids had been built to store grain.

Re: the PhD holders.

We witnessed several of them give evidence at Jo Phoenix's tribunal and every single one was an absolute shambles!

I could understand an apparent lack of common sense in someone academic but frankly she just sounded not very bright. I appreciate some PhD subjects will look like nonsense and a waste of time to us lesser mortals without one but I was under the illusion that you had to have at least some intellectual chops to do one however esoteric the subject might be.

@CheeseChamp I felt Emma was quite kind to her at times and said that perhaps she should come back and talk about her research. I would like to see that happen. (I do wonder what the research is.)

This was a flaming of Steph

"Are these alternative facts??"

<Peers over glasses>

🤣😂

Need that as a meme with Emma

It's Jacob Breslaw all over again.

He and Steph are both rabid TRAs, and that's all the qualifications they need.

Mermaids behave like they're run by a couple of sixth formers, who don't understand how they're supposed to conduct themselves.

So, either they did do due diligence on Breslaw, and ignored what they discovered, or they didn't bother at all.

Same with Steph.

Emma did well to keep the rage level at civilised! I couldn't have done that!

Jodie and Steph are bloody Muppets.

I had a conversation once many decades ago with my gynacologist about endometriosis patches being found in strange places, think lungs, other organs, On the surface of your leg etc and he mentioned then that in very rare cases they had also been discovered in men. I remember him saying something about men with cancers and certain types of treatment they had causing it, but that they are so small in number and it's not endometriosis in the way women have endometriosis that statistically they may as well not exist.

I don't imagine Jodies charity is going to cater to anybody but transmen and non binary people by the end of the year. Because any woman with endometriosis if they listen to that interview will walk away and find a charity that has actually got a bloody clue!

The interview felt uncomfortable to me. This is a very small charity, set up by small people who are probably challenged in the critical thinking arena. They have been catapulted into the national spotlight when they clearly do not have the communication skills to handle that. I feel sorry for the woman who has clearly been captured by the be kind brigade (or more cynically may have spotted an opportunity for EDI funding by putting so much time and attention into that non issue for this charity's aims). I don't feel sorry for Steph, who has a background that shows she knew exactly what was about to happen, and did it anyway.

It is humiliating for all involved, I think Emma B will be seen as harsh, to be honest - it's not like this charity was ever going to set the narrative on endometriosis issues, surely. Sounds like it's a local charity, for local people. She was asking questions of a level that these people are not qualified or intelligent enough to engage with. Looks like big bully transphobes out to get nice lovely bekind minorities and put upon singlemums who are all sobrave.

Hoping it doesn't go that way and overall useful sunlight and fascinating to see the change of stance in this debate from a BBC show.

I have also texted

I always thought this, till a woman wanted to use my work place for research and demonstrated an insane lack of ability to listen to any advice or information we gave her. Had to say no thank you in the end

I do hope Jane Garvey was listening to this today. I was cringing, hard, as she voiced her unqualified support for Steph yesterday on her Times Radio show yesterday.

I've just messaged the programme on X to congratulate Emma.

I sent a lot by text at 10 am 😄 I'm sure others had got there sooner

Oh if you have the time, it would be marvellous!

Can't wait to transcribe this later.