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Miriam Margoyles on pronouns

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ArthurbellaScott · 12/11/2023 15:27

'Whatever they want me to say, I'll say it'

Noting Boy George is on the seat with her. A man convicted for false imprisonment and torture.

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Winnading · 13/11/2023 21:50

Maddy70 · 12/11/2023 16:58

Christ. If you need the validation of a couple of letters before your name to make you feel valued then go for it. I don't.

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Lol at the irony.

If you require me to use wrong sex pronouns to feel valued, sorry ain't happening.

ZeldaFighter · 13/11/2023 21:39

I'm still unsure.

I don't want to be rude or hurtful but it's the slippery slope. If you called me she and her, you believe I'm a woman so you'll have no problem with me using the ladies toilets then? How do you walk that back?

SidewaysOtter · 13/11/2023 21:38

She must have other humorous anecdotes that don't involve bodily functions, surely?

Bodily functions seem to be where it’s at with dear old Miriam. I listened to an episode of Out To Lunch, Jay Rayner’s podcast, and she was open about farting during the meal. Who the fuck does that?

Catsanfan · 13/11/2023 21:14

DisingenuousBatshittery · 13/11/2023 21:06

I do feel I owe you all a huge apology for even mentioning the soldier wank in the first place.

Appreciate it...quivering in a corner

DisingenuousBatshittery · 13/11/2023 21:06

I do feel I owe you all a huge apology for even mentioning the soldier wank in the first place.

Catsanfan · 13/11/2023 20:36

Watching her graham Norton wanking interview made me want to vom

SirChenjins · 13/11/2023 20:25

I remember watching her on a programme about going to stay with some very religious Christians in the US - they came across as a very polite couple who were happy to talk about their beliefs. Her first words to them as they opened their door and welcomed her was “I’ve just farted on your doorstep”. Hilarious.

I can’t stand her.

RedToothBrush · 13/11/2023 18:45

I can't stand the woman. She just rants and raves and jumps on the latest bandwagon thats got official Labour Party approval, rather than actually thinking for herself.

On anything.

MarilynBoo · 13/11/2023 18:26

She tells the story in her memoir of how she was filming with Arnold Schwarzenegger and how disgusted she was when he farted in front of her. Yet here she is on This Morning farting in front of Phil and Holly 🤢

I used to like her but it's clear she doesn't want to rock the boat by challenging trans ideology.

Fizbosshoes · 13/11/2023 18:10

Waitingfordoggo · 13/11/2023 17:30

I’m sorry I haven’t read the whole thread yet- I see the soldier wank has been mentioned. Has anyone mentioned that time she gave an anecdote on Graham Norton about the time she ‘creamed’ her knickers when she met Laurence Olivier? Poor Matthew Perry on the sofa next to her was incredibly uncomfortable!

I remember that, he looked mortified!
She must have other humorous anecdotes that don't involve bodily functions, surely?

Waitingfordoggo · 13/11/2023 17:30

I’m sorry I haven’t read the whole thread yet- I see the soldier wank has been mentioned. Has anyone mentioned that time she gave an anecdote on Graham Norton about the time she ‘creamed’ her knickers when she met Laurence Olivier? Poor Matthew Perry on the sofa next to her was incredibly uncomfortable!

MCTorridWaffles · 13/11/2023 17:14

Disappointing. I was a fan! She’s an intelligent woman. And I thought she was lesbian and a feminist. She knows very well that this issue goes far deeper than pronouns and simply “being kind”!

Is it “kind” to female athletes when their opportunities for medals are taken away after years of training? Is it “kind” to deprive women of safe female spaces? Is it kind to females to eradicate the word “woman” and replace it with terms like “chest-feeders” or “people who menstruate”? What about kindness to them?

Sausagenbacon · 13/11/2023 17:09

Plus she's been using the soldier wanking story for some time now.
I saw her at a show in bristol and she used it.
Funnily enough, I went right off her.

Sausagenbacon · 13/11/2023 17:04

Seeing as mm makes a living by making people uncomfortable I find it odd that she feels it important to make people feel comfortable now.
Anyway, I can't stand her.

SirChenjins · 13/11/2023 16:15

Miriam is a consummate luvvie - she likes to play the part of the delightfully shocking posho old lady whilst being very aware of the need to keep on the right side of the paymasters.

PTSDBarbiegirl · 13/11/2023 16:12

ArthurbellaScott · 12/11/2023 16:23

Should we call this woman 'Doctor'? Out of politeness?

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2023/jan/10/fraudster-posed-as-nhs-doctor-for-19-years-court-hears

Would any of us volunteer for some experimental operating just to fully make the Dr. feel accepted, brave and stunning? Surely it can't be that dangerous?

PTSDBarbiegirl · 13/11/2023 16:10

SidewaysOtter · 12/11/2023 15:42

Disappointing. Miriam never seems to give a hoot about what people think about what she says, so why does she suddenly care about this?

I think she always says what she knows people want to hear.

EarthSight · 13/11/2023 16:02

It's not only about that person's wellbeing though, is it. It's about control, and more importantly, controlling how other people think about them. Simply using certain words isn't enough.

JeezWhatNext · 13/11/2023 15:27

Does she make good viewing? I find her totally self absorbed. All that dramatic not being able to be near children is so affected.

therealcookiemonster · 13/11/2023 14:22

ArthurbellaScott · 13/11/2023 13:41

True or not, I'm still processing her desire to tell the world about it.

tbf to miriam, she says whatever is on her mind lol. it does make for good tv

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ArthurbellaScott · 13/11/2023 13:41

True or not, I'm still processing her desire to tell the world about it.

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DisingenuousBatshittery · 13/11/2023 12:48

ApocalipstickNow · 13/11/2023 06:38

Oh it’s probably about as true as Brian Blessed delivering a baby in a park.

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We can but hope.

ApocalipstickNow · 13/11/2023 06:38

ArthurbellaScott · 12/11/2023 23:00

I'm still processing the soldier wank.

Oh it’s probably about as true as Brian Blessed delivering a baby in a park.

JeezWhatNext · 13/11/2023 01:10

Pronouns describe the sex of a person not their gender.

therealcookiemonster · 13/11/2023 01:03

@SidewaysOtter can I ask where you got your mind bleach from? I could do with some to remove the memory of suella and her recent speeches...