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Owen Jones comes out fighting for "Actual Free Speech"

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 10/11/2023 09:17

https://x.com/ucu/status/1722666107163832603?s=46&t=SPorwN-mokktL467rcZ57g

"We should start a new campaign for actual free speech says @OwenJones84

It's time to take a stand"

Looking forward to him unblocking all the women he's blocked on Twitter and hearing what they have to say. Free speech is for everyone, right?

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Tinysoxxx · 10/11/2023 14:03

MavisMcMinty · 10/11/2023 13:17

That’s what you call “actual free speech”, @Tinysoxxx .

Actual FreeUCUSpeech.
Actual FUCUS.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 10/11/2023 13:39
Grin
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NoMoreRedWineforFreda · 10/11/2023 13:35

I’m going to switch from calling him Little Owen Jones to Actual Owen Jones in honour of his new found interest in Actual Free Speech.

TWETMIRF · 10/11/2023 13:34

Love how he gets to use the word actual but if anyone GC uses it then it's bigoted. Actual free speech is fine, actual woman is not.

WickedSerious · 10/11/2023 13:26

Tinysoxxx · 10/11/2023 13:05

So the UCU have edited the free speech of Owen to the bits that work for them? 😂

Stirring stuff.

MavisMcMinty · 10/11/2023 13:17

That’s what you call “actual free speech”, @Tinysoxxx .

Tinysoxxx · 10/11/2023 13:05

So the UCU have edited the free speech of Owen to the bits that work for them? 😂

Ereshkigalangcleg · 10/11/2023 12:55

Seems available

That's not the speech I transcribed that Jo Grady is tweeting, I think it's the bit just before. The UCU has deleted the post about wanting to start a campaign for "actual free speech". Some people can still watch the video but I don't think it appears in the UCU feed any more. There's both a link to an upload (thanks @InvisibleDuck) and a transcript on this thread.

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PatatiPatatras · 10/11/2023 12:49

Seems available https://twitter.com/DrJoGrady/status/1722359627252121826. could be just moved from op link.

GCAcademic · 10/11/2023 12:33

Free Speech for Me but not for Thee.

MavisMcMinty · 10/11/2023 12:26

Good free speech vs. bad free speech.

EsmaCannonball · 10/11/2023 12:24

Saying 'actual free speech,' instead of 'free speech,' is just another way of saying 'the speech I agree with should be free.

UncomfortableSofa · 10/11/2023 12:18

Oh to have the unrelenting confidence and self righteousness of OJ and his dancing eyebrows.

MavisMcMinty · 10/11/2023 12:18

The cognitive dissonance must be like a constant migraine. Poor Little Owen.

EsmaCannonball · 10/11/2023 12:16

I'm very worried that if that former Hamas chief who lives here says something like, 'Slaughter all Jews. Oh, and people with willies shouldn't be in women's hockey teams,' Owen's brains will start leaking from his ears.

ArthurbellaScott · 10/11/2023 12:13

However the one in the OP has been posted downthread of that one.

ArthurbellaScott · 10/11/2023 12:11

Here's a retweet. It doesn't have the massive ratio.

Yet.

https://twitter.com/DrJoGrady/status/1722359627252121826

Edit: Ah, sorry, it's a completely different clip.

https://twitter.com/DrJoGrady/status/1722359627252121826

GCAcademic · 10/11/2023 12:03

ArthurbellaScott · 10/11/2023 11:59

When I looked it had 39 likes, and the top replies - mostly from women - had around 1k each. They were not supportive.

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You'd think that after the utter shitshow of the industrial action and latest ballot, the UCU leadership would reflect on the fact that they are out of touch with the majority of academics. And that they are damaging our credibility with the public. But no . . .

ArthurbellaScott · 10/11/2023 11:59

GCAcademic · 10/11/2023 11:56

Why? Did anyone see what replies it was getting?

When I looked it had 39 likes, and the top replies - mostly from women - had around 1k each. They were not supportive.

GCAcademic · 10/11/2023 11:56

RapidOnsetGenderCritic · 10/11/2023 09:45

"This post has been deleted."

😂

Why? Did anyone see what replies it was getting?

bombastix · 10/11/2023 11:52

Maybe he could exercise his ears and do some listening before speaking. Often helps

ArthurbellaScott · 10/11/2023 11:51

it’s so important that we stand our ground, we build these broad coalitions, and we make it clear that we are erm, you know, the true- that uh, that we hold the flame of genuine free speech

Brilliant.

Goldshelfie · 10/11/2023 11:35

The link in the OP seems to be working? It is ridiculous, I used to like him years ago but now I can’t understand how he can be so oblivious to his hypocrisy. How can he honestly not see how his blocking of women and others that he disagrees with creates his echo chamber, something that he then accuses others of being guilty of? He must be actually thick.

Tinysoxxx · 10/11/2023 11:33

Can someone do a Jones voice-over with pictures/videos of all the protests of women’s rights rallies and court cases? And the arrests of women. And the Stonewall big guns organisation lists (when government and the police and the bbc were in). And the Guardian letter signatories against their women journalists? I think his words need context.

pickledandpuzzled · 10/11/2023 11:23

“It’s really very upsetting the way people disagree with me out loud. We should start a campaign!”
Real Free Speech just for me, obviously, not the people with horrible different opinions!