Caster Semenya on BBC1 now

Ding! Ding! Round 3! No kicking. No gouging. No punching below the belt.

TBH I think elite sports are just a cess-pit of corruption all round. I don't know that their redeeming features come anywhere near making up for that.

I am hoping that Ladiesss can start having a discussion with us. And maybe provide some evidence that we have missed.

I am hopeful and optimistic that we can do this.

I think you will that they have all been deleted.

You have many deletions.

i wondering if it’s time for that Jane Austen quote

“You have delighted us long enough”

I’m bored now.

Caster Semenya is a male athlete and 5ARD a DSD that only can effect males.

Would you like more prove?

Why do you think this though?

Lots of people have explained why (they think) he is male.

She is not male.

Most of your posts here have been abusive. You have consistently called posters disgusting and the posts on this thread disgusting. I am quite glad that you at least admit that your post to me was abusive.

We are obviously getting somewhere.

Can you confirm that you acknowledge that Semenya is, in fact, a male athlete?

shall we start there so your time here can be spent having dialogue that is not revolving around abusing posters?

I have reported your posts, the nasty ones and had some removed.

Ive asked for examples of my so called abuse and you’ve been unable to provide. Until now.

If Caster wants to be seen as a woman then he needs to stop dressing and acting like a man. If he wants respect he needs to give respect . Saying female athletes who can’t beat him need to train harder is not respectful. Saying his elevated testosterone has not helped him to beat female athletes is both ignorant and disrespectful.

Did you see my hypothetical question upthread about whether you think Caster would currently call himself a woman if he had not been tempted to do so by the promise of material success and had instead chosen to live his life in obscurity not in the limelight of international accolade?

No. I have been telling you the facts of the status of Caster Semenya's sex and their medical health condition that was completely relevant for this discussion.

I have already said to you that you should feel free to report any posts that you feel were not up to the standard that you demand. I have also said you were completely free to use whatever pronouns and logic that you wished. However, you are posting on a public forum, and your posts are abusive so you should expect push back from others.

I repeat for clarity. You are free to think anything you like. You are not free to keep abusing posters for not agreeing with your view of the world.

Best to scroll past, Helle

Examples

Yes because I handed that to you, you couldn’t give exames earlier because there were none.

About that abuse I mentioned.... there it is right there.

You’ve been telling me what I should think throughout.

Please stop telling posters what they can and cannot say. it is so so ignorant.

Please stop calling her him, it is so so ignorant.

'the deciding factor has always been about seizing the opportunities that running as a woman have offered, and that Caster has chosen to live the lie and enjoy the fame and fortune this has brought.'

Exactly, and I find people's naivety around this frustrating. Many folk aren't 'nice' and transparent. A lot of integrity is bogus. People want to get rich, others may want to do nefarious things. They create a persona and operate behind it, whether it's a fetishistic male wanting to get into women's spaces, a politician who is only out for themselves, the 'naice' Captain Moore family, etc. We've had decades of revelations about such things and yet people continue to take human beings at face value. Elite sport is very lucrative, Caster took advantage of the regulations while he still could, then doubled down when they were tightened up, with the predicable assistance of the genderwank brigade who decided to get outraged on his behalf.

18? 16 even. There's no way Caster and those around him didn't know his sex much earlier on.

The period question is the one that sways it for me.

As a girl if you get to 18 with no signs of periods you / your parents are going to start asking questions and seeking medical advice whatever your background, education or means. This is not the same as erratic periods due to low bmi or intense training. No mother would shrug this off. No way. I don't buy it.

I was just coming to post that. Because it is in my link bank that I often post on the sports threads.

Here is some more information about his background.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2003-04-22/olympic-champion-hires-former-east-german-drug/1841668

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/further-checks-on-coach-ordered-1.114105