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Notaflippinclue · 04/11/2023 22:14

Why the fuck has MUMSNET cancelled her

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ArthurbellaScott · 09/11/2023 12:23

Tallisker · 09/11/2023 12:21

Fuck 'be kind'. Fuck silky frocks. Fuck flippy hair. Fuck soft and submissive. Fuck respecting pronouns. Fuck engaging with these creeps. Fuck playing along.

Ooh Arthur get off that fence and tell us what you really think 🤣

<clears throat>

RapidOnsetGenderCritic · 09/11/2023 12:23

AlphaTransWoman · 09/11/2023 12:06

Thank you. I'll need to figure out how to get onto Twitter, but that might be the best place for a discussion with her😀

Sounds as if you don’t know much about Twitter. It’s not moderated anything like as well as MN so you’d better get your skin thickened before you venture into the jungle. KJK will be able to eat you alive (metaphorically) and no-one will delete what she says. Have fun. Actually, given the evidence of what you seem to enjoy, don’t have fun, just keep safe.

AlphaTransWoman · 09/11/2023 12:22

Hmm. The trouble is, I don't technically fall into that three letter category people commonly allude to on these threads. I'm something a lot more weird and complicated - no need to go over the details of that again. So probably the wrong discussion for me to engage in.

Tallisker · 09/11/2023 12:21

Fuck 'be kind'. Fuck silky frocks. Fuck flippy hair. Fuck soft and submissive. Fuck respecting pronouns. Fuck engaging with these creeps. Fuck playing along.

Ooh Arthur get off that fence and tell us what you really think 🤣

GrittyTunnocks · 09/11/2023 12:20

Helleofabore · 09/11/2023 12:12

Thank you Hanlon. Not to engage or pry, but was it anything like our male poster has portrayed it? I believe the words were:

Women are treated so kindly in prison that I cannot believe they would suffer any significant "punishment" for misgendering someone, other than being asked to spend a short while living in separate conditions from other residents.

I don’t think Alpha knows what he is talking about.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 09/11/2023 12:17

Thank you. I'll need to figure out how to get onto Twitter, but that might be the best place for a discussion with her

Not sure you'll get a platform in a discussion entitled "Wolves In Wolves Clothing: The "Good" AGPs"

Helleofabore · 09/11/2023 12:12

Hanlonsamazer · 09/11/2023 12:07

I spent some time on remand earlier this year in a large women’s prison. There was a TW on my spur. The difference in socialisation was STARK. Very glad when they were moved off, the atmosphere changed dramatically. They also had a single room marker so no risk of sharing. Amongst 33 women, one man made a huge difference.

Thank you Hanlon. Not to engage or pry, but was it anything like our male poster has portrayed it? I believe the words were:

Women are treated so kindly in prison that I cannot believe they would suffer any significant "punishment" for misgendering someone, other than being asked to spend a short while living in separate conditions from other residents.

ArthurbellaScott · 09/11/2023 12:10

Hanlonsamazer · 09/11/2023 12:07

I spent some time on remand earlier this year in a large women’s prison. There was a TW on my spur. The difference in socialisation was STARK. Very glad when they were moved off, the atmosphere changed dramatically. They also had a single room marker so no risk of sharing. Amongst 33 women, one man made a huge difference.

Yes, this is always the point that is missed. Politicians bang on about 'tiny numbers' of people - forgetting that one single man can traumatise/retraumatise/irritate the shit out of/spoil the dynamic of/trigger large groups and many numbers of women.

How many women have self excluded from Edinburgh's Rape Crisis because they know that the CEO is a male who things part of his role is to 're educate' women who disagree with him?

Hanlonsamazer · 09/11/2023 12:07

I spent some time on remand earlier this year in a large women’s prison. There was a TW on my spur. The difference in socialisation was STARK. Very glad when they were moved off, the atmosphere changed dramatically. They also had a single room marker so no risk of sharing. Amongst 33 women, one man made a huge difference.

AlphaTransWoman · 09/11/2023 12:06

AlisonDonut · 09/11/2023 11:51

Posie has a space on Twitter/X right now Alpha if you want to go on and debate her.

Thank you. I'll need to figure out how to get onto Twitter, but that might be the best place for a discussion with her😀

ArthurbellaScott · 09/11/2023 11:59

It's all fantasy based. To be blunt.

RethinkingLife · 09/11/2023 11:53

OldCrone · 09/11/2023 01:07

When did you spend time in a women's prison Alpha? What was your crime?

tbh, I'm also wondering, given the unmitigated, unqualified, no proximate modifiers confidence of the statement, about the story/conviction/offence behind the comparator which surely has to be time in the men's prison estate.

AlisonDonut · 09/11/2023 11:51

Posie has a space on Twitter/X right now Alpha if you want to go on and debate her.

FreddysSquishyBollock · 09/11/2023 11:33

so much this!

I refuse to teach my little girl to tolerate or ‘respect’ creepy men.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 09/11/2023 11:20

We need to encourage girls to trust their instincts, cultivate awareness, and be assertive.

Fuck 'be kind'. Fuck silky frocks. Fuck flippy hair. Fuck soft and submissive. Fuck respecting pronouns. Fuck engaging with these creeps. Fuck playing along.

This.

ArthurbellaScott · 09/11/2023 11:14

IcakethereforeIam · 09/11/2023 10:05

I think even without all the trans stuff, Dolatowski would come across like one of those weirdos who sit next to you on the bus. Sleeping in a room with him <shudder>. That little girl who fought him off, I just can't imagine her ordeal.

Girls are bloody amazing. The girl fought him off. The girl kidnapped by Andrew Miller managed to get to the phone and call the police.

Would that women and girls could always have their strength of mind, fortitude, courage and insight.

We need to encourage girls to trust their instincts, cultivate awareness, and be assertive.

Fuck 'be kind'. Fuck silky frocks. Fuck flippy hair. Fuck soft and submissive. Fuck respecting pronouns. Fuck engaging with these creeps. Fuck playing along.

AlisonDonut · 09/11/2023 10:07

KJK and her bloody milkshake.

tasty milkshake GIF
IcakethereforeIam · 09/11/2023 10:05

I think even without all the trans stuff, Dolatowski would come across like one of those weirdos who sit next to you on the bus. Sleeping in a room with him <shudder>. That little girl who fought him off, I just can't imagine her ordeal.

ArthurbellaScott · 09/11/2023 09:58

So when politicians talk about 'marginalised' - Dolatowski is no doubt marginalised, yes. He's a paedophile, an outlier, and no doubt has mental issues.

ArthurbellaScott · 09/11/2023 09:57

Dolatowski is another very good example of how someone can be both very vulnerable and very dangerous at the same time.

BezMills · 09/11/2023 09:48

GrandmaMazur · 09/11/2023 09:22

A bit of an aside but has anybody seen the Channel 4 programme Banged Up in which celebrities spend a week in a prison with some ex-prisoners?

I found it quite terrifying to imagine how it would be as a woman to be locked up with such extremely aggressive angry men. I mean it’s horrible for the men but for women it would be absolutely horrific. How on earth have criminal males been given access to women’s prisons?

I'm a 6 foot male in good shape and I'd be terrified to be locked up with that man Dolotowski or even Bryson. Bad people are scary, even if they don't outweigh and outmuscle you. Males do not belong in prison with females. End of. How this has come about is an absolute disgrace and it should be sorted out immediately and never happen again.

TinselAngel · 09/11/2023 09:34

Notaflippinclue · 09/11/2023 09:17

Try Girl and Gardenia - different

I was supposed to not be buying clothes this month but now you've made me.

GrandmaMazur · 09/11/2023 09:22

A bit of an aside but has anybody seen the Channel 4 programme Banged Up in which celebrities spend a week in a prison with some ex-prisoners?

I found it quite terrifying to imagine how it would be as a woman to be locked up with such extremely aggressive angry men. I mean it’s horrible for the men but for women it would be absolutely horrific. How on earth have criminal males been given access to women’s prisons?

GrandmaMazur · 09/11/2023 09:17

I was pleased to see some Adult Human Female stickers in the toilets at a local sixth form college recently.

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