KJK

https://x.com/theposieparker/status/1720956553753203014?s=46&t=omuKeAgAjscgni2jfxrNng

‘I said I’d drink a bottle of Prosecco through my nose if @stellacreasy could tell us what a woman was.’

Good to know you're on the side of free speech.

Strangely, your fellow activists don't have the same confidence you do. They are very scared of open discussion for some reason.

What position is going to win?

"Women don't have a penis"

Or...

"Sex is so much more complex that you think; it's not a binary, and that's why this 100% normally developed male is somehow a woman just because they said so"

??

Not long before the first KJK episode (Nov 2019) they interviewed India Willoughby (April 2019) who back then was trying to pretend to be a ‘Reasonable Trans Person’, and the Triggerpod boys were sympathetic bordering on sycophantic.

In fairness, IW has changed her position back and forth several times since then. She was clearly figuring out what would get her the most attention and decided screaming Genderist loon is the most profitable.

TRA dont used platforms to change minds - they dont think highly enough of women to care about what we think. They use them as a means to perform 'woman' in front of an audience. Thats why wallis was drunk and flashing, because to him that what 'woman' is.

Its why they are so bad a debating - its not their aim. Its to show off their definition of woman - shaved legs, or clothes or sexual fetish.

Particularly if it is recorded. That would be a lifetime supply needed there.

It's the 21st century 'ladies' can box if they want to.
It's our job to make sure they continue to be able to and don't find themselves facing a man with lady feels.
Considering how many perfectly reasonable questions from Mumsnetters you have failed to answer with plenty of time and space to consider your answers I wouldn't be rushing into live debate with anyone if I were you.

@TheHappyCarrot quite

Hm. KJK isn't the gullible type, and besides, it would overstress supply lines on tissues.

Does this mean Grace Lavery can now debate Helen Joyce?

Because that event’s cancellation is my personal Great Sadness of the Terf Wars.

Grace would be even funnier than Freda, and might even sling the wine over Tatchell!

Excellent suggestion.

The era of “no debate” is over then?

Yes!

KJK has persuaded a hell of a lot of ‘Be Kinders’ to reconsider their position, including the Triggernometry hosts!

Not long before the first KJK episode (Nov 2019) they interviewed India Willoughby (April 2019) who back then was trying to pretend to be a ‘Reasonable Trans Person’, and the Triggerpod boys were sympathetic bordering on sycophantic.
They’ve come a long way!

Here’s the IW episode: (43k views compared to KJKs 1.5 million).

I mean indeed, if Peter 'let's fuck children' Tatchell has to step in, you know you're done for

Just in case anyone missed KJK against Adrian Harrop, I'm always delighted to have an excuse to share it again.

You can call her up on TERF Talk Tuesday next week and do it.

Go on, put your money where your mouth is.

May as well repost these, seeing as some randos just keep on with the smears:

Julian Vigo:
https://savageminds.substack.com/p/anatomy-of-the-near-murder-of-kellie

Heather Brunskell-Evans:
https://savageminds.substack.com/p/policing-adult-human-females

@AlphaTransWoman In a way I would love to see you go head to head with KJK (not physically as that pesky old Y chromosome coupled with the testosterone would kick her ass) but in terms of in an interview setting she'd have you for breakfast.

Sadly, I have begun to think you are using us adult human females as a platform to launch some weird kind of fame. Even your username makes no bloody sense

Having listened to her on the Triggernometry podcasts, the most interesting thing to me has been how the host's understanding of the situation has evolved from speaking to her and others over time.

Exactly. Freedom of speech is vital for society to differentiate good ideas from bad.

And that’s why you guys have refused to debate with us.

That’s why you use hyperbolic insults instead of arguments. You have a ‘throw enough mud at a wall and some of it will stick approach’. Problem is, whenever I meet someone who thinks they agree with you, when I tell them what our side actually is saying they reply, ‘ oh well, yes I agree with that and that and that’. Your side just doesn’t survive the light of day.

The Oxford dictionary definition of woman is 'An adult female human being'.

This is what KJK says. What precisely is the problem with this?

@ZuttZeVootEeeVo ah, thanks for the background on this.

Personally I think LangCleg should be first I the reinstate queue; I don't know if she wants back in either though.

I doubt KJK has the time to debate some small, irrelevant, unknown nowadays.

4 years ago she would go on anything and everything to get around the ‘No debate’ bollocks, but she’s clearly now in the metaphorical Rolodex of various legacy and new media producers so doesn’t have to bother with the nobodies anymore.

Between just her 2 Triggernometry interviews and her Jordan Peterson interview she’s up to over 2 million views.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Pdpc2r4cBxQ

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jqO02-RWKLg

I don't think this is a good idea,what with you being so soft and fragile.