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Notaflippinclue · 04/11/2023 22:14

Why the fuck has MUMSNET cancelled her

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Hanlonsamazer · 10/11/2023 21:48

JanesLittleGirl · 10/11/2023 21:44

I see that Alf the Gendered Person has been cropping up on a number of threads on FWR. It's like watching a burglar trying to find an unsecured door or window.

Great analogy. Opportunist. It’s so insidious.

JanesLittleGirl · 10/11/2023 21:44

I see that Alf the Gendered Person has been cropping up on a number of threads on FWR. It's like watching a burglar trying to find an unsecured door or window.

Helleofabore · 10/11/2023 21:33

Datun · 10/11/2023 20:46

Oh, totally. This has been my fucking irritation with it all. If you validate them, they get off on it. If you ridicule them, they get off of it.

Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

I think pointing it out for others is an important thing to do though. It helps a lot.

LarkLane · 10/11/2023 21:08

I remember reading that excellent advice. Ignore is the only. way
Step over the post as you would a dog turd.

Datun · 10/11/2023 20:46

Helleofabore · 10/11/2023 17:59

Even Mr Menno has advice for us on this.

https://x.com/mrmennotweets/status/1723029301157659118?s=46&t=HTxp6zCd4GZ2FFv4a-YeQ

I have trimmed a few words from the start so it doesn’t get deleted.

“I had last year with a woman who used to run a fancy dress shop. She mentioned how some men would come in to try on women's clothes, but not just that - they would have a special request: could she please ask her female staff to tell these men how ridiculous they looked? For what they were really after was to be ridiculed and humiliated - by women.”

“Imagine just turning up for work and blokes like that trying to make you an extra in their little sissy porn fantasy.”

“The woman would say "No" but that in itself was a form of rejection that gave these men a thrill, and some would become quite stalkery as they needed to get their kicks.”

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Oh, totally. This has been my fucking irritation with it all. If you validate them, they get off on it. If you ridicule them, they get off of it.

Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

EmpressaurusOfCats · 10/11/2023 19:46

I was ‘nice’ to the hefty bloke with the short skirt in Brighton, who asked my opinion of his pillar box-red hair & whether it matched his lipstick, because there was nobody else around & if I hadn’t said what he wanted to hear he might have clobbered me.

Then I went stickering & donated to a couple of crowdfunders.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 10/11/2023 19:18

DameMaud · 10/11/2023 19:05

Absolutely!
Maybe we could do a thread about what a curriculum like that could look like?
And then campaign to bring it into schools?

I'd settle for safeguarding becoming a priority again with girls allowed to insist on single sex spaces and schools challenging the adult groups swarming all over them telling children they may be born in the wrong body & demanding that men and boys can have access to girls 24/7.

DameMaud · 10/11/2023 19:05

Datun · 10/11/2023 17:40

Totally. I genuinely think feminism should be taught in schools. And not the fun kind.

Absolutely!
Maybe we could do a thread about what a curriculum like that could look like?
And then campaign to bring it into schools?

Boiledbeetle · 10/11/2023 18:56

JanesLittleGirl · 10/11/2023 18:48

That and cheese, Tunnocks and how we are all men.

I accidentally outed myself earlier on the last one when I suggested that I wasn't manning properly.

All hail to the mighty Tunnocks! With
Gratuitous talk of cheese whilst we all
Pee standing up like the men we are!

Catsanfan · 10/11/2023 18:51

IcakethereforeIam · 10/11/2023 18:48

I love his 'Pronoun Song'.

Also awesome 👌

IcakethereforeIam · 10/11/2023 18:48

I love his 'Pronoun Song'.

JanesLittleGirl · 10/11/2023 18:48

Ereshkigalangcleg · 10/11/2023 18:37

We can't have any enjoyment can we, when they even get off on us taking the piss?

Recipe chat is the only way to go.

That and cheese, Tunnocks and how we are all men.

I accidentally outed myself earlier on the last one when I suggested that I wasn't manning properly.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 10/11/2023 18:37

We can't have any enjoyment can we, when they even get off on us taking the piss?

Recipe chat is the only way to go.

Catsanfan · 10/11/2023 18:32

Just watched Menno's In the Ladies and it depressed me so much I had to watch the Y Chromosome song to cheer myself up

TinselAngel · 10/11/2023 18:30

We can't have any enjoyment can we, when they even get off on us taking the piss?

Helleofabore · 10/11/2023 18:11

Hanlon

I have come to believe that it is part of it. That being humiliated in any way is part of it, being encouraged is part of it. I have to say that there are more than one regular poster on this board that seem to have the same objective and it took me a while to realise it but regulars probably can think of who they are.

Hanlonsamazer · 10/11/2023 18:03

@Helleofabore that is fucking disgusting. These invaders can’t know how grubby and sordid we think they are, or is that all part of it?

Helleofabore · 10/11/2023 17:59

Even Mr Menno has advice for us on this.

https://x.com/mrmennotweets/status/1723029301157659118?s=46&t=HTxp6zCd4GZ2FFv4a-YeQ

I have trimmed a few words from the start so it doesn’t get deleted.

“I had last year with a woman who used to run a fancy dress shop. She mentioned how some men would come in to try on women's clothes, but not just that - they would have a special request: could she please ask her female staff to tell these men how ridiculous they looked? For what they were really after was to be ridiculed and humiliated - by women.”

“Imagine just turning up for work and blokes like that trying to make you an extra in their little sissy porn fantasy.”

“The woman would say "No" but that in itself was a form of rejection that gave these men a thrill, and some would become quite stalkery as they needed to get their kicks.”

Datun · 10/11/2023 17:40

Justnot · 10/11/2023 17:32

Datun FWR should be a degree - the stuff I’ve learned……

Totally. I genuinely think feminism should be taught in schools. And not the fun kind.

Justnot · 10/11/2023 17:32

Datun FWR should be a degree - the stuff I’ve learned……

Ereshkigalangcleg · 10/11/2023 17:27

Which was very forcibly born in on me in the halcyon days of GenderTrender.

Gallus Meg just assumed that every single man who came on the board was there to manipulate, and very likely have a wank about it.

They would always, always just say they wanted to talk/listen/compromise. She made up the rules so wasn't bound by any censorship. After literally one or two of her non cooperative, well placed, responses, their masks dropped and they went into full foul mouthed rant mode.

At which point she banned them.

Yes I remember this too. Loved Gendertrender. The comments on Feminist Current articles were often similar. Meghan Murphy also took no prisoners!

Datun · 10/11/2023 17:23

This Board taught me to listen to what women here are telling me. When there's a heads up, it's for a genuine reason.

Same.

Every time I've ever thought, ooh that's a bit harsh or that sounds extreme, I've been bloody wrong. It's generally not harsh or extreme enough.

Which was very forcibly born in on me in the halcyon days of GenderTrender.

Gallus Meg just assumed that every single man who came on the board was there to manipulate, and very likely have a wank about it.

They would always, always just say they wanted to talk/listen/compromise. She made up the rules so wasn't bound by any censorship. After literally one or two of her non cooperative, well placed, responses, their masks dropped and they went into full foul mouthed rant mode.

At which point she banned them.

Women with power. 'Twas a thing of beauty.

Datun · 10/11/2023 17:15

Like Gandalf doing the washing up?

I was responding to this!

Datun · 10/11/2023 17:14

That made me laugh out loud.

I'm not sure how I feel about the idea of Gandalf doing a bit of hot flannelling.

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