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Equalities minister says Government is now challenging ‘activist groups’ like Stonewall after it got on the ‘wrong track on gender ideology’

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IwantToRetire · 02/11/2023 00:57

Ministers were wrong to allow “activist groups” like Stonewall <a class="break-all" href="https://archive.ph/o/bLpjR/www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/08/18/stonewall-removes-government-departments-top-100-employers/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">to set the rules on gender for so long, Ms Badenoch has admitted.

The equalities minister said the Tories got on the “<a class="break-all" href="https://archive.ph/o/bLpjR/www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/09/14/we-can-only-win-from-a-showdown-with-stonewall/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">wrong track on gender ideology” over the past decade by outsourcing policy-making to the charity.

She said the tide was now turning because the Government was doing much more to “<a class="break-all" href="https://archive.ph/o/bLpjR/www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/10/24/conversion-therapy-transgender-children-stonewall/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">challenge activist groups that take over institutions”.

On gender ideology, she said: “I think we should take a step back and look at how we got here and this is where I think the Government does need to do a little bit more.
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“And it’s about challenging activist groups that take over institutions… We started going on the wrong track on gender ideology because we allowed other people to start telling us what to do.

“Ideas came from the leftist part of academia, feeding into particular charities - Stonewall is the best example of this but they’re not the only one - where they started advising government, saying this is what you need to do in order to serve a particular community.

“And then it over-reached and started giving people legal advice, or advice that was certainly different from what the Equality Act said.”

She added: “Government needs to be more confident in itself rather than asking other people to mark our homework and wanting to be on Stonewall’s top employers list, that’s when things start to go wrong.

“I think we were able to turn the tide once we stopped being influenced by people who had an agenda, pretending to be neutral, pretending to be charities rather than activists.”

This is quite a long article including comments about conversion therapy https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2023/11/01/silly-pronoun-rows-distracting-bigger-issues-kemi-badenoch/

Behind paywall but can be read by going to https://archive.ph - just paste the telegraph link into the box.

‘Silly’ pronoun rows distracting us from bigger issues, Kemi Badenoch warns

Equalities minister says Government is now challenging ‘activist groups’ like Stonewall after it got on the ‘wrong track on gender ideology’

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2023/11/01/silly-pronoun-rows-distracting-bigger-issues-kemi-badenoch

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Villagetoraiseachild · 02/11/2023 07:22

A lay lu ya! All hail to the Kemi.

Haven't read the full article but I got the gist.

So how do they now propose to roll back all the familal, educational, institutional, corporate and societal damage?

StripeySuperNova · 02/11/2023 07:20

It's a shame it headlines with 'silly pronouns' which I think will be interpreted as insulting and belittling to a particular sector of society and I think that's uncalled-for really. Butyouve got to reel readers in.

It's a good piece and it shows me that the Tories have MPs who totally understand the issues and they have a platform and a voice. They have the courage, the freedom, and I think, the backing of their leader to actually discuss the issue in plain, straightforward terms. All in direct contrast to Labour.

Also really good that Sex Matters' concept of 'modern' conversion therapy is being put out there for people to contrast with the activist claims.

Overall, great to see this. Thanks for bringing it to our attention.

Hotchocolatemousse · 02/11/2023 02:53

Rightsraptor · 02/11/2023 02:46

She's absolutely correct, of course, but what took them so long to see it?

The general election, this is their trump card over the Labour 'let's be kind & allow predators into women's spaces' party.

Rightsraptor · 02/11/2023 02:46

She's absolutely correct, of course, but what took them so long to see it?