For Women Scotland have lost their appeal

Damn, your correct, ArthurbellaScott. I thought it was the same, but the scottish prison service are going to hold prisoners in the prisons of the birth sex initial, and then review.

This piece of TRA genius made me chuckle amidst all this shitshow.

I'm very grateful we have Michael Foran's insight and expert input on this issue.

'Dr Michael Foran joined the law school in 2022, having previously taught at the University of Strathclyde from 2020-22. He completed his PhD in Constitutional Theory at the University of Cambridge and holds degrees from the London School of Economics (MSc in Law and Anthropology) and Trinity College Dublin (LLB).
He specialises in constitutional law with a particular focus on the rule of law, legal equality, and the common law constitutional tradition.
In 2022 he was a visiting researcher at the Common Good Project, University of Oxford. '

Not bad qualifications for a 'random man'.

I've found his take on the law very helpful. Legal experts often differ in interpretation.

The government stated early this year that regardless of having a GRC or not, intact TW, or those guilty of violent or sexual crimes will not be held in womens prisons.

So, we shouldnt see any convicted rapists in womens prisons.

But they also said "There is currently no obligation to place a transgender prisoner according to their preference, and where individuals are held is based purely on risk."

Id love to see the risk assessment that allowed any male to be in womens prison. If there is no risk, there wouldn't be separate prisons in the first place.

Its what i said early - its two very ambiguously written laws and safeguarding fails are only dealt with when theres a public outcry, not when writing the acts.

Not Barbie Kardashian but I imagine it might be a higher bar to clear for others.

He is in Ireland so a completely different set of laws,

Could a tw , eg B Kardashian, use this as a legal precedent to try and get back into the women's estate? I know the legal system is different in Scotland but ....

Twitter is just a sea of the FWS tweet and lots of repeal the GRA tweets tonight!

Yes, I am glad to see that many more people are supporting repealing it.

Out on the streets, everyone. This is outrageous and dangerous to women. More letters to SMPs, and anyone who will listen….women’s magazines, organisations .and how the hell it is supposed to work is anybody’s guess. Furious.

Its odd that politicians and media talk about sexism, misogyny and women generally disadvantaged by policies when the same politicians and media believe woman can identify out of being a woman, by doing nothing but say that they are no longer woman.

If it was that easy, and no nobody can tell who is a man or woman without being told, how can politicians be so sure sexism and misogyny, or transphobia for that matter, exist?

By allowing people everyone know are male, be classed as if they are female, they arent changing perception or a persons sex, just enforcing compelled speech and forced teaming.

@AvacadoFieldsForever Its so much worse than it being based on feelings and gender stereotypes although that is part of it, the reality of what is really driving this is so much darker and disgusting but I don't believe we are allowed to be candid about it here.

😡 we will fight on women are not men

Sex is scientific, comes from scientists and medical doctors, is backed by hundreds of years of data and research, is categorical and definable.

And yet we’re implementing a new system based on belief, that comes from personal
feelings, is backed by a picture of a gingerbread and some 50s stereotypes and asking what two spirit means legally and practically could get a girl fired.

This is a next level power trip.

The BBC is fairly captured, as are other major institutions

It’s a big problem for women

The bbc is all over the covid enquiry misogyny claims. But still men can't see when they are actively doing misogyny. Pretending a man is a woman is anti women and hate speech.

The terrible thing is that this will be changed down the line

x.com/judgejules75/status/1719345449134436522?s=20

The terrible thing is that this will be changeddown the line - but it will be on the backs of countless abused, raped and harmed women and girls. As women know and the current crime stats demonstrate, too many predators take advantage of all this.

This is my belief, too.

Part of me thinks the GRA and EqA are designed to create chaos and push boundaries, forcing politicians to row back only when public outrage is politically unpalatable.

How many times do government ministers have to express confidence in the laws, only to have change policies later. Who would write policy allowing rapists into female prisons and not see a problem? Its inconceivable that it was a genuine oversight.

This decision has been widely reported in Scotland so hopefully will make more people aware of the threat to women's rights.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-67289999

FWS have 28 days to appeal this so we need to urge Westminster to clarify the Equality act ASAP.

Does this mean that a trans man cannot claim sex discrimination?

Or make an equal pay claim if all the higher paid men they want to compare themselves to are considered legally the same sex as them?

This case does prove that to be regarded as a woman , a “ trans woman “ must have a GRC. Same with a “ trans man” and remember this judgement has implications about everything from single sex spaces to maternity care.

That’s utter nonsense.