Size 18 "Praised for Beautiful Body"

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No cosmetic surgery I think is the difference.

I don't care how she looks, she's increasing her risk of cancer, heart disease and diabetes. None of them are very sexy, even in a red bikini.

Wouldn’t it be nice if beauty wasn’t such a prevalent attribute for women?

Shania twain.

She looks bigger than an 18. And she looks like a normal person - I don't think her 'fat distribution' is great. I am surprised at how many plus size models have flat stomachs though.

Yeah, the fact is that even for women who are average or thinner than average, things like having kids will change their body. Age has an effect as well. When you are in your 20s everything will have a certain elasticity, but that goes over time.

It also may well be the case that some of these models, while being overweight, also have good muscle tone. Especially in younger women it's possible to have both of those things together if they are active, and it will affect things like the shape of their stomach and how their body carries weight, good posture, etc. Just like skinny people can be unfit with poor muscle tone. Unfortunately carrying a lot of weight (like the model in the picture, not so much "normal" somewhat heavy people) will make it much harder to stay active as time goes on.

Is there a female equivalent to Mick jagger?

In what way?
Maybe Debbie Harry? Dolly Parton?

In terms of successful older women singers? Yes, I think so.

In terms of being considered a sex icon? I don't think MJ is these days really, but it would be fair to say that he probably was well into his 60s. As a young man he was quite attractive, maybe not conventionally, but he had an interesting symmetrical face and a boyish quality to his looks. There are lots of women like that.

Where you see a difference in the "middle aged" and older category. I don't think this is a socialized difference though. It's not society being "unfair" to women. I think in general, it reflects that women find different things sexually attractive than men do.

I think it's inevitable that models will be attractive people.

I also think it's fine that models have a variety of bofy types. To me that's practical. Their job is to show what clothes look like, and if you area heavy person, or a tall skinny person, it is nice to be able to see what clothes will look like on you. Most models aren't the ones on the big catwalks, they are in advertising, catalogues, where the emphasis is trying to see what you want to purchase. That's more the case now with online shopping too.

Personally, as a culture, I think there should be a line drawn around cosmetic surgical procedures. Mainly because they are a health risk and the benefits only really exist because it becomes a sort of competition. That's an issue for all models though.

How old is she? This used to be me (although not tall). Now I weigh more but do more exercise , I eat the same.
Do people (without eating disorders) want to be that size? I used to think so.

@SpicyMoth It should be about health, not size or weight. Whether it’s overweight or underweight neither is healthy. Why isn’t healthy more admired and aspired to? Eating healthy, creating healthy habits, good sleep, fresh air, self care and working out. You may not lose vast amounts of weight but your insides will appreciate it.

I also think the current trend of massive tits/bum and tiny waist is equally as damaging as unrealistic plus side models and very thin models. It's a look that is unachievable without surgery.

I don’t agree that you never see women this shape IRL, I’ve seen a good few at the pool over the years. They can look good in a swimsuit and like a pile of cushions once they get dressed for the daily grind - if you don’t see them near naked you wouldn’t look twice.

Usually they are young and pre-children. I don’t think you can get back there by losing weight from a much larger size.

*Beefcurtains79 · Today 06:09

Most plus size models have lipo on certain areas, it’s all a scam. Agencies like them to have: Chin lipo - no double chins allowed. Waist lipo, upper arm lipo and often lipo round the knee area.
Its just as unrealistic and contrived as size zero models*

Dd is a US size 0 /00 (uk 2/4) and very tall

Anyone I think can be her size. They just need a job that involves walking/fast walking/running for 12-16 hours per day. Her phone has her step count as anything between 25,000 to 55,000 steps per day
Then you too can eat anything you want and be slim without dieting or starving yourself

I always say it takes a lot of effort for the majority of us NOT to be overweight in this consumerist and over processed food led society.

I'm guessing we are dealing with basically chemical addiction that is advertised to us everyday. I suspect wheat may be an addiction issue as well as refined sugar.

Overweight women are definitely deemed to be more acceptable if they have bigger boobs / their boob to stomach ratio is larger to smaller. Weight is such a tricky one. I think we live in a time where most of us feel - rightly or wrongly - too busy / overwhelmed / exhausted to do the right things re eating and exercising. I always say it takes a lot of effort for the majority of us NOT to be overweight in this consumerist and over processed food led society.

I mean it's very unhealthy to be so large and I don't think it's OK to glorify it, and clearly she looks normal not gorgeous. Weird pants!
I don't believe inclusive means lie, just accept most people look fine and very few great. Size 6 also looks bad.

Me too. Have gone from 8 stone to over 12. I'm small boned. My knees hurt and my shoulders have lost mobility.
Carrying extra weight as you age may be big but it's not clever.

But they are valid comments

I'm a UK 16/18, and she is bigger than me. A US 18 is at least 1, maybe 2 sizes bigger.

Fat is not attractive to the majority of people. It's just not, male or female. It does cause health problems. I am fat, I am trying to lose weight because I hate it

More comfortable too.

Why does everyone, whatever their size, squeeze themselves into clothes that are clearly a size too small these days? See it all the time.
Those white knickers in particular are just too small. Bet they’re bloody uncomfortable and do t look nice at all.

Skimming is far more attractive than clinging.

Kind of, in that female recording artists that established themselves can still perform and be in the public eye for decades.

In rock music, women haven't achieved as much as men.

That's a carefully posed photo. IRL those bikini bottoms would roll down under her belly fat. (Source: also have belly fat)

Is there a female equivalent to Mick jagger?