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Eddie Izzard - "these arguments will drift away".

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HootyMcBooby76 · 26/10/2023 09:44

Eddie Izzard criticises discord sown between trans and women's rights: 'They shouldn't be fought against each other' | Watch (msn.com)

Another interview with Izzard saying these "arguments will drift away", it's "live and let live", its a right wing ideology etc.

Get fucked Eddie.
Women's rights will not just "drift away" you moron.

It's NOTHING to to with homophobia, the arguments aren't even comparable.
You just want women to shut up and sweep themselves out of the room and close the door after themselves, don't you?

Well, it's not happening you twat.

MSN

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/video/other/eddie-izzard-criticises-discord-sown-between-trans-and-women-s-rights-they-shouldn-t-be-fought-against-each-other/vi-AA1iS28L?ocid=msedgntp&pc=DCTS&cvid=36e51da08cf3448184f125ab164f52ac&ei=9

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NeighbourhoodWatchPotholeDivision · 28/10/2023 16:51

To put the capstone on it, Queen Letizia was 49 that summer. Apparently 49 is too old to wear that dress?

Izzard was 60 at the time he was pronounced to be giving off "perfect summer vibes" in the same dress.

ArthurbellaScott · 28/10/2023 16:45

NeighbourhoodWatchPotholeDivision · 28/10/2023 16:43

Indeed. Compare the media coverage of Izzard wearing a dress, to the media coverage of Queen Letizia of Spain wearing the same dress.

It looked much better on Queen Letizia, but you'd never have known that from the headlines.

Images taken from this twitter user: WestHamMatters

Holy fuck. If ever anything proved that people are treated differently according to sex, and that gender is bollocks, it's that.

NeighbourhoodWatchPotholeDivision · 28/10/2023 16:43

MargotBamborough · 28/10/2023 15:41

Well no, neither do I really.

But I think what a lot of people are reacting to is the fact that if a woman of Eddie's age and general attractiveness went out dressed like that she would be ridiculed for looking like a dog's dinner, whereas because Eddie is a man people are pretending he looks great. He doesn't.

It reminds me a bit of the kind of people who act like a man is the dad of the century if he looks after his own kids at the weekend or manages to put a nappy on the right way round. As soon as a man does something that is a "woman thing", no matter how badly, he becomes better than actual women.

Indeed. Compare the media coverage of Izzard wearing a dress, to the media coverage of Queen Letizia of Spain wearing the same dress.

It looked much better on Queen Letizia, but you'd never have known that from the headlines.

Images taken from this twitter user: WestHamMatters

Eddie Izzard - "these arguments will drift away".
Eddie Izzard - "these arguments will drift away".
PorcelinaV · 28/10/2023 16:40

@Froodwithatowel

You have got to be a highly unpleasant and very limited person to believe that male supremacism can or should be framed as a 'human right'. I used to think this silly individual was intelligent.

I think the use of "human rights" here is wrong; it becomes a way to evade the democratic process, and is actually an oppressive tactic to use. It's kind of like appealing to, "my god sent this command and you all have to follow it", "you can't question the commands of god can you?".

But if I had to guess, many of the people that speak this way are probably completely sincere that they think it's just another step in getting "equality" for a minority.

Saucery · 28/10/2023 16:34

I’m not even going to buy Edinburgh Gin any more. Although I prefer small distilleries anyway.
My parents have a mirror in that style, kept for its kitsch qualities. Flowers, line drawn woman gazing into middle distance……it’s from the 1960s, when stepping out of gender roles was still frowned upon. Women Know Your Place - surrounded by a herbaceous border, faraway look on your face with your chin raised because you don’t want a wattle spoiling the view for men DO YOU.

Mytattooisbiggerthanyours · 28/10/2023 15:47

Is anyone going to buy his gin?

https://www.edinburghgin.com/eddie-izzard

Eddie Izzard - "these arguments will drift away".
Froodwithatowel · 28/10/2023 15:42

And women will line up to stroke the man's ego by applauding.

MargotBamborough · 28/10/2023 15:41

0rch · 28/10/2023 15:29

I don't agree with anyone making comments about other people's appearance. The media or the pp. it's just unnecessary and unkind

Well no, neither do I really.

But I think what a lot of people are reacting to is the fact that if a woman of Eddie's age and general attractiveness went out dressed like that she would be ridiculed for looking like a dog's dinner, whereas because Eddie is a man people are pretending he looks great. He doesn't.

It reminds me a bit of the kind of people who act like a man is the dad of the century if he looks after his own kids at the weekend or manages to put a nappy on the right way round. As soon as a man does something that is a "woman thing", no matter how badly, he becomes better than actual women.

Froodwithatowel · 28/10/2023 15:38

Trans rights are human....

oh ffs. Another parroted burble.

The 'right' being sought is for men to do and go where they want and not have to be restricted in expressing themselves regardless of women's consent, equality, freedom, privacy, dignity or safety.

You have got to be a highly unpleasant and very limited person to believe that male supremacism can or should be framed as a 'human right'. I used to think this silly individual was intelligent.

turbonerd · 28/10/2023 15:36

Eddie seems to think his appearance turns him into the other sex. But weirdly enough, not into a woman of 60 odd years, but into a girl.

So I think it is fair to comment on his appearance, words, actions - the lot really.

He doesn’t just want to be free to dress how he likes. That would have been fine. He wants, no - demands, that the audience and public st large believes his lies about girl and boy modes.
It really is bad.

SidewaysOtter · 28/10/2023 15:34

0rch · 28/10/2023 15:29

I don't agree with anyone making comments about other people's appearance. The media or the pp. it's just unnecessary and unkind

And crowing about chasing two teenage girls out of a public loo - as Izzard did - was that necessary or kind?

Why should someone who behaves badly be lauded rather than - to use the modern parlance - called out? And why should we all have to clap along and be part of the enforced validation by saying “You look great” if we don’t think that at all? Why shouldn’t we be able to say that we find “woman face” (or dress) offensive?

Cosmosforbreakfast · 28/10/2023 15:30

Does this man ever stop with his nonsensical misogynistic ramblings? Find another way to get publicity for your silly movie Eddie.

I am just so ashamed and embarrassed that I was ever a fan and thought he was a really cool guy.

0rch · 28/10/2023 15:29

I don't agree with anyone making comments about other people's appearance. The media or the pp. it's just unnecessary and unkind

MargotBamborough · 28/10/2023 15:26

0rch · 28/10/2023 15:15

Such a nasty tone to this. You aren't doing yourselves any favours

Serious question.

If a famous woman of Eddie's age dressed and presented herself the way Eddie does, do you think the media would be fawning over her and saying she looked great?

SidewaysOtter · 28/10/2023 15:22

0rch · 28/10/2023 15:15

Such a nasty tone to this. You aren't doing yourselves any favours

I don’t care what you think, to be honest. I’m tired of men cosplaying being women and thinking that’s OK. In his interview Izzard seems to suggest that everyone is cool with his behaviour except those on the “extreme right” (which is bollocks in itself because most GC women I’ve ever met are left wing) and we most certainly are not alright with his behaviour when it comes to chasing girls out of loos and demonising anyone who has a different opinion from him as far right.

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again - I was once a huge fan of Izzard because he was pushing the boundaries of what it was to be a man. Fucking good for him, why can’t a man wear a dress or makeup or heels? But once he started calling himself a woman…nah, fuck off with that.

0rch · 28/10/2023 15:15

SidewaysOtter · 28/10/2023 14:54

“they're saying,…I think you're looking great”

That’s what they all think, isn’t it, that they pass and look great. Meanwhile, the rest of us have very different opinions on the Emperor’s latest look.

Such a nasty tone to this. You aren't doing yourselves any favours

turbonerd · 28/10/2023 15:09

Ooh.
was the jd for me?

Why Thank you 💐💐

turbonerd · 28/10/2023 15:09

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I am glad you said fuck off, because then clearly I am allowed to bellow
FUCK FURTHER OFF

right back at you.

I tag who I like, believe it or not, because it is a free board.
And you posted, and reported like a narrow minded thought police on here, then fucked off to start a New thread on how the deletions weren’t rapid enough for you.

That sucks, bro.

Enjoy your weekend.

SidewaysOtter · 28/10/2023 14:54

“they're saying,…I think you're looking great”

That’s what they all think, isn’t it, that they pass and look great. Meanwhile, the rest of us have very different opinions on the Emperor’s latest look.

SidewaysOtter · 28/10/2023 14:52

Ooh, thank you @MargotBamborough , I will try that gin instead!

miniproblem · 28/10/2023 14:33
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miniproblem · 28/10/2023 14:32

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OvaHere · 28/10/2023 14:20

No Eddie, women are not going to drift away from noticing you are a) a man and b) extremely disparaging about women.

turbonerd · 28/10/2023 14:15

@miniproblem
You Are the Thought Police.
I am not impressed with you.
Your thread was in trending earlier and I hope that means a lot of people see how you allow only one way of thinking.

That is despicable, and if I knew how to do the Jammy Dodger you would have one stat.

Eddie was not, is not and can never be a girl. He is lying, wants all the media to lie, and demand that we all believe his lie or else…
And you are cheering him on.

Fucking hell, that is low.

Datun · 28/10/2023 14:10

ArthurbellaScott · 27/10/2023 08:19

Wikipedia's summary of the plot of the original book:

'Jekyll's letter explains he held himself to strict moral standards publicly, but indulged in unstated vices and struggled with shame. He found a way to transform himself and thereby indulge his vices without fear of detection.

Jekyll's transformed body, Hyde, was evil, self-indulgent, and uncaring to anyone but himself. Initially, Jekyll controlled the transformations with the serum, but one night in August, he became Hyde involuntarily in his sleep.'

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It's uncanny.

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