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Butches against transpohobia

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Catsanfan · 24/10/2023 16:09

I saw a woman wearing a T shirt saying 'Butches against transphobia' today. It astounds me that some lesbians would think that way. I wonder what she would do if presented with a penis on a date?

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NeighbourhoodWatchPotholeDivision · 25/10/2023 21:10

Given the amount of time DadJoke saves by not reading our posts, I hope he's found the time to organise sanitary bins in the men's toilets at his workplace.

Or does he not realise that male and female people's needs aren't symmetrical?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 25/10/2023 21:02

Yes that was a very moving film.

NeighbourhoodWatchPotholeDivision · 25/10/2023 21:02

But I suppose male people never do hear and listen to female people explaining that they're scared of males. The gender identity of the female people doesn't change that, because misogynists know what women are.

NeighbourhoodWatchPotholeDivision · 25/10/2023 21:00

NeighbourhoodWatchPotholeDivision · 25/10/2023 16:07

Bollocks have female transitioners been using men's toilets for decades. Bollocks. I have known trans people, many of them female, since my own teens, and they always used to be highly aware of their own vulnerability around men when partially undressed to urinate.

They all feared corrective rape from men. It's only in the last few years that people have started cheering on women into the men's.

Amazing that the men's is simultaneously now held to be safe for 6 stone trans-identifying female teens and unsafe for 15 stone trans-identifying middle-aged men. Amazing.

Look at me disputing it!

There was even a fucking film about trans-identifying females being killed by men, starring Hilary Swank!

ArthurbellaScott · 25/10/2023 20:54

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 25/10/2023 20:46

This is all making much more sense than DadJoke's inaccurate rabbit.

I'd rather listen to any rabbit than DadJoke, however inaccurate.

MargotBamborough · 25/10/2023 20:46

@DadJoke I don't think anybody is disputing that some male people have been disregarding women's boundaries for years. What we want to know is how to make them stop.

ArthurbellaScott · 25/10/2023 20:40

Ah, here you are, Dadjoke! We've been waiting for you. Great. Now.

People breaching boundaries and disobeying rules has definitely happened in the past. What you're disputing is that women should ever have any space to themselves?

DadJoke · 25/10/2023 20:34

SpiderMaam · 25/10/2023 18:02

We’re literally disputing it right here on this thread (but @DadJoke apparently can’t see the words on the screen in front of his face).

Just to be clear, what you are disputing is that trans women use women's bathrooms, and trans men use men's bathrooms and have done for decades?

mypenismightierthanmysword · 25/10/2023 20:24

ArthurbellaScott · 25/10/2023 20:21

It's very easy to muddle pen and penis.

Which is why Arabella doesn't let me do the Christmas cards anymore.

Ain't it just.

ArthurbellaScott · 25/10/2023 20:21

It's very easy to muddle pen and penis.

Which is why Arabella doesn't let me do the Christmas cards anymore.

MargotBamborough · 25/10/2023 20:17

CowboyJoanna · 25/10/2023 20:14

It isnt a "real" thing like homophobia is Hmm

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I think it is real.

I just don't agree that not believing that trans women are women, trans men are men and non binary people are non binary is transphobic. Any more than not believing in Allah is Islamophobic.

And characterising any kind of disagreement or dissent as transphobia actually means there is no longer a word to describe real transphobia.

Which is something I might be worried about if I didn't have enough on my plate worrying about words like "woman", "lesbian" and "female" being rendered meaningless.

CowboyJoanna · 25/10/2023 20:14

Flickersy · 24/10/2023 16:15

And also, what's wrong with being against transphobia?

It isnt a "real" thing like homophobia is Hmm

Catsanfan · 25/10/2023 20:09

SpiderMaan · 25/10/2023 20:02

That’ll be due to your inferior lady-brain, sweetheart.

🤣 absolutely!

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MarkBamborough · 25/10/2023 20:04

Catsanfan · 25/10/2023 19:55

Oh blimey @SpiderMaam and @SpiderMaan this is so confusing 🤣

I'm not surprised, I mean, it's a little bit confusing for men too! I'm surprised the rest of you are managing to follow what's going on at all to be honest.

SpiderMaan · 25/10/2023 20:02

Catsanfan · 25/10/2023 19:55

Oh blimey @SpiderMaam and @SpiderMaan this is so confusing 🤣

That’ll be due to your inferior lady-brain, sweetheart.

SpiderMaam · 25/10/2023 20:01

Perhaps the EQ10 was written with one of those little Bic biros made especially for girls?

Because obvs we can’t expect Dadbloke to read it if it was written in the language of Womanese by little lady hands using a pink pen!

https://www.amazon.co.uk/BIC-Her-Medium-Ballpoint-Pen/product-reviews/B004FTGJUW

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Catsanfan · 25/10/2023 19:55

Oh blimey @SpiderMaam and @SpiderMaan this is so confusing 🤣

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Catsanfan · 25/10/2023 19:52

MargotBamborough · 25/10/2023 19:46

Well he certainly can't read the Equality Act, or its accompanying guidance.

Indeed!

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SpiderMaan · 25/10/2023 19:51

MarkBamborough · 25/10/2023 19:48

No wait, forget I laughed. Women aren't funny, everyone knows that.

Don’t worry, that comment was made by @SpiderMaan not @SpiderMaam.

I Self ID as a comedian.

MarkBamborough · 25/10/2023 19:51

Actually it was rather funny, and I have just realised it was actually a maan who said it. That must be why.

Phew! I was doubting myself for a second there. Which is an unusual feeling for me.

MargotBamborough · 25/10/2023 19:49

I thought it was funny.

SpiderMaam · 25/10/2023 19:48

Catsanfan · 25/10/2023 19:39

You're the second one 🤣 I wonder if such a group exists? 🤔

I think that particular third sector org is currently on hiatus (due to the incarceration of the Chairperson).

Trans Butchers are Butchers!

MarkBamborough · 25/10/2023 19:48

No wait, forget I laughed. Women aren't funny, everyone knows that.

MarkBamborough · 25/10/2023 19:47

SpiderMaan · 25/10/2023 19:45

And there was me thinking a pair of pliers might make it work (in a pinch).

Looks like it’s penis-business-as-usual.

The tool of choice.

For the utter tool.

"Tool of choice" 😄

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