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Lesbian nana goes viral again

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OhBeAFineGuyKissMe · 24/10/2023 09:49

https://x.com/bigbillmoon/status/1716537824994808300?s=61&t=g1YHbG7L5rNz7O2ap7ad2g

most police officers manage to not go viral at any point, or have any social media coverage. Yet this one has managed it twice in a few months! Not a good look.

Totally unrelated question - what effects does testosterone have on a female body?

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exwhyzed · 25/10/2023 23:01

NotTerfNorCis · 25/10/2023 22:19

@NotTerfNorCis how would you feel if you were suddenly and without warning pepper sprayed in the face for no reason - making your eyes feel on fire for up to an hour?

I would take that any time over being a public target with all that entails. I don't think people realise the heavy cost this kind of social shaming involves. She's not going to be able to 'fade away'. She's almost certainly receiving threats now. If she loses this job she'll find it impossible to find another. It's a cruel thing to happen and although some people might deserve it, I don't think she does.

Also - I can't understand why she's been attacked from a feminist board. What's the reasoning?

the police officer's sex is irrelevant.

The specific police force she works for and their ongoing support of her in the face of what subsequently appears to be an unlawful reaction to a perceived hate crime only a matter of weeks ago is what makes the more recent events relevant to the feminist board.

When women and girls are being dragged from their homes and are being arrested in the streets for calling a man a man or speculating that a butch presenting woman looks like another lesbian they know, or for being rude about someone who is trying to undermine our hard won rights, or for taking a photo of a sticker that supports woman's rights, then, you betcha we are interested in the conduct of those same police officers who have that power over us.

no matter their shape, colour, size or genitalia.

Pixiedust1234 · 25/10/2023 22:54

Also - I can't understand why she's been attacked from a feminist board. What's the reasoning?
What?? You think her sex means she's above criticism when she's acting out of control?

BreadInCaptivity · 25/10/2023 22:50

NotTerfNorCis · 25/10/2023 22:19

@NotTerfNorCis how would you feel if you were suddenly and without warning pepper sprayed in the face for no reason - making your eyes feel on fire for up to an hour?

I would take that any time over being a public target with all that entails. I don't think people realise the heavy cost this kind of social shaming involves. She's not going to be able to 'fade away'. She's almost certainly receiving threats now. If she loses this job she'll find it impossible to find another. It's a cruel thing to happen and although some people might deserve it, I don't think she does.

Also - I can't understand why she's been attacked from a feminist board. What's the reasoning?

Being a woman isn't a free pass to behave without impunity or censure on this forum or any other.

DerekFaker · 25/10/2023 22:41

Also - I can't understand why she's been attacked from a feminist board. What's the reasoning?

We talk about police abuses of power a lot on this board. And this is the second time this particular officer has lost control. Her sex is irrelevant.

Maaate · 25/10/2023 22:39

Yes, you're right. Police officers acting aggressively and inappropriately should just be kept on the down low because we can trust the police force to take the appropriate actions.

i mean, it's not as if there is a long list of concerning behaviours by serving police officers that get swept under the carpet.

PaterPower · 25/10/2023 22:36

Also - I can't understand why she's been attacked from a feminist board. What's the reasoning?

Hmm.. serving police officer abuses their power very publicly twice (just the times she’s been filmed, I’d be surprised if these were the only occasions) including the bullying and unjustified / unlawful arrest (with homophobic undertones) of an autistic teenager. And you don’t think that deserves a thread?

What surprises you about it being on FWR? Is it not ‘feminist’ to criticise the police when they do things like this? Is she immune from criticism by feminists because she’s a woman?

She’s a police officer. Her sex should have no bearing on her competence.

NotTerfNorCis · 25/10/2023 22:19

@NotTerfNorCis how would you feel if you were suddenly and without warning pepper sprayed in the face for no reason - making your eyes feel on fire for up to an hour?

I would take that any time over being a public target with all that entails. I don't think people realise the heavy cost this kind of social shaming involves. She's not going to be able to 'fade away'. She's almost certainly receiving threats now. If she loses this job she'll find it impossible to find another. It's a cruel thing to happen and although some people might deserve it, I don't think she does.

Also - I can't understand why she's been attacked from a feminist board. What's the reasoning?

BreadInCaptivity · 25/10/2023 22:04

NotTerfNorCis · 25/10/2023 19:50

She's not being shamed, she's (rightly) being held to account.

This is public shaming, and the punishment is too severe for the crime.

Perhaps the best response to this is from the mouth of PC in question herself having called in 5 (?) other officers to arrest an autistic child mid meltdown in her own home for comparing her to her (actual) lesbian nan.

"I don't care".

Maaate · 25/10/2023 21:52

Imagine if other police officers had been "publically shamed" for their inappropriate actions instead of it being hushed up and excused?

exwhyzed · 25/10/2023 21:49

The woman is a menace but beyond her lack of insight into her role as a police officer, any blame is entirely at the feet of her superiors who have completely failed to properly supervise her and take control of a situation where one of their colleagues/subordinates has clearly lost control.

Not one single police personnel there even seemed to look at her, let alone try and calm her down. She was pepper spraying people at random FGS!

Are they scared of challenging her too?

IcakethereforeIam · 25/10/2023 21:20

A name was mentioned upthread but I actually had no idea, or any desire to find out, what her real name is. PC L Nan is sufficient.

SpiderMaam · 25/10/2023 21:09

If her employer had instigated an appropriate discipline process the public wouldn’t need to bang on about her all over social media.

The public shaming is for West Yorkshire Police the institution, PC Nanna could dye her hair brown and fade into desk-job obscurity if she wanted to.
That she’s been caught on camera twice now exerting (what appears to be excessive force) against teenagers is an indication of WYP’s incompetence.

PurpleBugz · 25/10/2023 20:57

Saw this and please to see a thread on it. Some of these comments are hilarious.

Yes she should be publicly shamed like this. If the public were not outraged she would face no consequences. That's if she even faces them now.

Thank god she doesn't have a gun.

Mole is awesome.

WeighDownOnMeStayTillMorning · 25/10/2023 20:56

Yeah @Dumbo12 I'm baffled that comment went over most peoples heads. It's a terrible thought and justifying it is shocking.

Dumbo12 · 25/10/2023 20:53

The idea of policing by "fuck around and find out" is most disturbing, when we live in a country which is supposed to have policing by consent.

SinnerBoy · 25/10/2023 20:50

slore · Today 20:41

Yes, I agree for the most part. She weaponised six male officers, to physical bully an autistic child, with a physical disability. She's then gone on a pepper spray rampage.

If she's the public face of policing, we're in worse trouble than we thought. She's delighted to act like that in public, whilst being filmed, so who knows what she's like when there are no eyes on her?

I understand the public shaming aspect, but she's out in public, acting like that and we know that complaints against the Police rarely get anywhere. She's the author of her own misfortune.

slore · 25/10/2023 20:45

SkyePye · 25/10/2023 20:37

You know OAVA is classified as a firearm, right?

Would you feel differently if she was running around aiming a shotgun at bystanders?

@NotTerfNorCis how would you feel if you were suddenly and without warning pepper sprayed in the face for no reason - making your eyes feel on fire for up to an hour?

How would you feel if you were a disabled young girl with autism and a twisted spine, screaming and punching your own head, cornered under the stairs by 7 police officers, then painfully dragged out of the house?

Why do you have no sympathy for the victims who actually suffered?

BreadInCaptivity · 25/10/2023 20:42

NotTerfNorCis · 25/10/2023 19:50

She's not being shamed, she's (rightly) being held to account.

This is public shaming, and the punishment is too severe for the crime.

So are you suggesting that police officers who abuse their powers should not be called out publicly?

That we should rely on the "integrity" of privately reporting misconduct and letting the police investigate their own....

Let's recall how many reports were made about Wayne Cousins/David Carrick shall we, or the admission from the police of DV abuse allegations of serving officers: Met chief says 800 officers investigated over sexual and domestic abuse claims www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-64293158.

Then consider just how seriously they are going to take reports of misconduct against and autistic child "name calling" or a few "extra" squirts of pepper spray.....

Fundamentally if the police want to protect their forces from public media attention then they need to start by establishing trust in their own internal processes by identifying and appropriately sanctioning officers who behave poorly and reigning in/having a word with officers such as LN in real time rather than standing next to them whilst they kick off.

slore · 25/10/2023 20:41

NotTerfNorCis · 25/10/2023 08:30

At this stage she's a victim of public shaming, though, and I don't think many people deserve that.

Lesbian Nana aka PC Emily Bradshaw is a danger to the public and has already physically harmed at least 4 innocent people - and that is all that has been caught on camera in two incidents. She deserves condemnation. She is in a position of power which she has been filmed severely abusing, twice. She has got away with it entirely at least once, and will likely get away with this as well. The public are entitled to feel safe from police, and to know they won't be abused by a power-tripping narcissist. Therefore this is in the public interest to have widespread media attention, and to increase pressure to fire her.

To reiterate, she called 6 male police officers as back up to falsely arrest a 16 year old autistic girl for a homophobic public order offense, which was neither homophobic nor said in public. She repeatedly said "I don't care" when informed that the screaming child punching her own head was autistic. This was a hate crime.

In this latest incident, she actively approached innocent onlookers to pepper spray them in the face - something which causes the eyes to severely burn for up to an hour, and can have negative side effects. Pepper spray is only supposed to be deployed to prevent violence, and they are supposed to be given a warning; Lesbian Nana gave no warning at all, and the people she attacked were either not approaching or were actually already retreating. None of them appeared to be involved in the incident or at imminent risk of being violent. They were just onlookers who she didn't want there. It was quite simply assault.

Anyone who commits a hate crime against a disabled child, or commits assault on random innocent people, deserves to be publicly condemned. This "shaming" as you call it, is far less than she actually deserves, which is the sack and criminal charges.

SkyePye · 25/10/2023 20:37

*PAVA

SkyePye · 25/10/2023 20:37

NotTerfNorCis · 25/10/2023 19:50

She's not being shamed, she's (rightly) being held to account.

This is public shaming, and the punishment is too severe for the crime.

You know OAVA is classified as a firearm, right?

Would you feel differently if she was running around aiming a shotgun at bystanders?

Alltheprettyseahorses · 25/10/2023 20:25

NotTerfNorCis · 25/10/2023 19:50

She's not being shamed, she's (rightly) being held to account.

This is public shaming, and the punishment is too severe for the crime.

I really can't agree with this. She's dangerous. We've all watched a video where she's attacking random passers-by and she's caused severe pain and distress to a young girl. The time for niceness is long gone, the longer she's in post the more people will be injured.

NotTerfNorCis · 25/10/2023 19:50

She's not being shamed, she's (rightly) being held to account.

This is public shaming, and the punishment is too severe for the crime.

SpiderMaam · 25/10/2023 18:12

NeverDropYourMooncup · 25/10/2023 16:34

She's clearly missed her true calling in life.

SLT in a large Academy Chain.

😂

RethinkingLife · 25/10/2023 17:05

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 25/10/2023 17:00

Brian Booth, chairman of West Yorkshire Police Federation, said: "It beggars belief that individuals, whilst using illegal substances, thought that it would be acceptable to apply to become a Police Officer.
"The basic principle of knowing what is right and what is wrong, runs through the core of policing.

Someone tell the Met that their core needs strengthening.

And yet, time and again, things that would have 'beggared belief' in recent times (such as what woman means) are perceived to be exploitable loopholes because nobody would have thought challenges to that (or the existence of gravity as a force) would be entertained.