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JKRowling. Prepared to go to prison for women's rights.

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Cismyfatarse · 18/10/2023 20:34

Share token here:

JK Rowling: I’ll happily go to prison for women’s rights

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/32d91356-6d9b-11ee-b5d7-5487922f056f?shareToken=f1594da48d0791b9d9a9e2a6cd8965c2. Hopefully this works for everyone. She really is a Queen.

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Datun · 19/10/2023 05:30

Stephannee · 19/10/2023 01:42

Upper class billionaire white women don't tend to go to prison very often if at all. She can say what she wants knowing comfortably she can afford the best lawyers money can buy (unlike most of us).

Anyway isn't she meant to be "cancelled"? She's in the media non stop harping on about trans people.

She can say what she wants knowing comfortably she can afford the best lawyers money can buy (unlike most of us)

That's the point. She's prepared to stick her neck out, risking incarceration, because the justice that women are seeking is being denied them, due to the fact that it costs money.

She's letting the Labour Party know that if they they fondly believe they can impose this ridiculous law on women without being challenged, they are very much mistaken.

Datun · 19/10/2023 05:24

“Bring on the court case, I say. It’ll be more fun than I’ve ever had on a red carpet.”

If there's one thing JKR knows about, it's the effect of a spotlight.

Coyoacan · 19/10/2023 05:16

It's interesting, on the one hand, the prisons are so full that rapists are apparently being let off because there is no room in the inn, so to speak, and on the other, Labour are thinking up more and more trivial reasons to send people to prison.

So will the rapists be wandering the streets while people who used the wrong pronoun fill the cells?

MrsMitford3 · 19/10/2023 03:10

She is a bloody hero.

Prepared to actually put her neck on the line.

Such an impressive and brave woman

CavalierApproach · 19/10/2023 03:01

spookehtooth · 18/10/2023 23:16

You made out the only thing stopping you was alleged red flags, you're still talking like its okay ... and its not, its a terrible thing to even think is okay let alone do it

The poster you’re responding to here is not the same person you originally quoted (and misunderstood — or at least, misrepresented in your earlier reply).

So much righteous outrage and yet you barely even seem to be clocking the key details of what you’re reading.

And no, it isn’t ‘a terrible thing’ to set out a hypothetical scenario in which a woman correctly identifies and names a man’s sex. FGS

OrderOfTheKookaburra · 19/10/2023 02:30

Oh and JKR is bloody awesome!

OrderOfTheKookaburra · 19/10/2023 02:21

Because there are less female prisoners there are less female prisons. Which means they can't be categorised in the same way.

Low security and maximum security are all held in the one facility.

So certainly not "nice" although probably not as bad as a men's high security prison, but worse than a men's low security prison.

AlphaTransWoman · 19/10/2023 02:16

QueenBitch666 · 19/10/2023 02:00

You've obviously zilch experience of women's prisons. They're certainly not nice 🙄
And yep, she'd be sent to a women's prison because she's a WOMAN

Well obviously I've never been to one. But everything I have read about them (including HMIP reports) suggests they are considerably more pleasant environments to be confined in than men's prisons.

HMP Low Newton (the highest security women's prison in the UK) has an extensive set of gardens and a petting zoo. I don't think they have those at Belmarsh.

Female criminals are treated with kindness and compassion. I'm not saying that is wrong. But it does create problems when it comes to trans women. I'm not sure what the right approach is here.

QueenBitch666 · 19/10/2023 02:01

Sorry @Tallisker Flowers
Was replying to @TransWoman

QueenBitch666 · 19/10/2023 02:00

Tallisker · 18/10/2023 22:45

TransWoman see, I don't think it would be. I'm sure she'd be fine in Wormwood Scrubs. But then you don't understand women, do you?

You've obviously zilch experience of women's prisons. They're certainly not nice 🙄
And yep, she'd be sent to a women's prison because she's a WOMAN

QueenBitch666 · 19/10/2023 01:57

What a Queen 🩷

mushti · 19/10/2023 01:54

Stephannee · 19/10/2023 01:42

Upper class billionaire white women don't tend to go to prison very often if at all. She can say what she wants knowing comfortably she can afford the best lawyers money can buy (unlike most of us).

Anyway isn't she meant to be "cancelled"? She's in the media non stop harping on about trans people.

The fact that what she says about the issue is being reported in media is a choice by the media, in this case the Times. The editorial team obviously think that what she says is of interest to enough people to be worth publishing. That's the newspaper's choice, not hers. She doesn't command them to quote her or write about her.

Stephannee · 19/10/2023 01:42

Upper class billionaire white women don't tend to go to prison very often if at all. She can say what she wants knowing comfortably she can afford the best lawyers money can buy (unlike most of us).

Anyway isn't she meant to be "cancelled"? She's in the media non stop harping on about trans people.

JellySaurus · 18/10/2023 23:49

But it's OK for men to talk about approaching girl children because they would like to ask them about inserting tampons?

spookehtooth · 18/10/2023 23:16

ArabellaScott · 18/10/2023 23:14

Try rereading, maybe a little more slowly.

'If I were to ask him some pertinent questions, which I wouldn't'

You made out the only thing stopping you was alleged red flags, you're still talking like its okay ... and its not, its a terrible thing to even think is okay let alone do it

ArabellaScott · 18/10/2023 23:14

spookehtooth · 18/10/2023 23:13

You think its okay to approach a stranger in the street walking around and minding their own business, in spaces everyone agrees they have the lawful right to be, for the specific purposes of getting into some kind of argument?

I think you have some issues of your own. Nobody deserves their day to disrupted like that, for any reason whatsoever. You're no different to a man cat calling, wolf whistling or giving a woman any of the unwanted attention they get going about their day, minding their own business.

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Try rereading, maybe a little more slowly.

'If I were to ask him some pertinent questions, which I wouldn't'

spookehtooth · 18/10/2023 23:13

Rightsraptor · 18/10/2023 21:25

What does 'hatred of a victim's gender identity' even mean?

If I see a bloke in a mini skirt up around his arse, as I did yesterday, I think he looks ridiculous and convinces nobody. If I were to ask him some pertinent questions, which I wouldn't because I regard men wearing women's clothes in public as waving more red flags than a May Day parade in Moscow, and he said 'my gender identity is a woman/female, so I wear these clothes' - could my questions be construed as 'hateful'? I don't think so, but Scots law might disagree.

But if I then tell him I think he looks ridiculous and he's clearly a man, I can't see how that is hatred of his 'gender identity' because if it were I'd have to hate women or females, and I don't. I hate seeing the parodies of womanhood these men affect, but that's not the same thing.

Insanity upon insanity.

You think its okay to approach a stranger in the street walking around and minding their own business, in spaces everyone agrees they have the lawful right to be, for the specific purposes of getting into some kind of argument?

I think you have some issues of your own. Nobody deserves their day to disrupted like that, for any reason whatsoever. You're no different to a man cat calling, wolf whistling or giving a woman any of the unwanted attention they get going about their day, minding their own business.

JanesLittleGirl · 18/10/2023 23:03

AlphaTransWoman · 18/10/2023 22:57

I dearly wish the English language did not have gendered pronouns. This whole damn problem would immediately disappear.

Nah. They would just open a second front.

Tallisker · 18/10/2023 23:02

Oops!

Wiccan · 18/10/2023 22:59

AlphaTransWoman · 18/10/2023 22:34

To be fair, she would be sent to a nice lady prison because she is a woman. Two years in Wormwood Scrubs would be an entirely different prospect. 😱

Firstly womens prisons are not "nice " and JKR wouldn't be put in wormwood because ...... Oh yeah , she's a WOMAN !

AlphaTransWoman · 18/10/2023 22:57

I dearly wish the English language did not have gendered pronouns. This whole damn problem would immediately disappear.

paperflowers55 · 18/10/2023 22:51

if this is what it has come to I will ensure to always refer to someone by their first name and avoid genders. problem solved. for all I know, I could misgender someone by absolute mistake

Tallisker · 18/10/2023 22:45

TransWoman see, I don't think it would be. I'm sure she'd be fine in Wormwood Scrubs. But then you don't understand women, do you?

AlphaTransWoman · 18/10/2023 22:34

To be fair, she would be sent to a nice lady prison because she is a woman. Two years in Wormwood Scrubs would be an entirely different prospect. 😱

agent765 · 18/10/2023 22:28

Admiration and respect but most of all she gives me hope.

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