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JKRowling. Prepared to go to prison for women's rights.

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Cismyfatarse · 18/10/2023 20:34

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JK Rowling: I’ll happily go to prison for women’s rights

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/32d91356-6d9b-11ee-b5d7-5487922f056f?shareToken=f1594da48d0791b9d9a9e2a6cd8965c2. Hopefully this works for everyone. She really is a Queen.

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Wiccan · 19/10/2023 10:33

It's irrelevant who is rich or not , can or can't afford good legal representation. No one should be charged or sent to prison for speaking fact and truth about the sexes .

I'm with JKR . It's a hill I'm prepared to fucking die on !

RhannionKPSS · 19/10/2023 10:32

It’s thanks to all the women, and women’s organizations like MBM, FWS, SFN etc , and Jo Rowling pushing back that Miller is in a men’s prison because if we and they hadn’t done so, that vile, cruel man would be in a women’s prison today.
Labour continue to prove that they cannot be trusted with the safeguarding of our children, and our rights.

Froodwithatowel · 19/10/2023 10:19

Who/what is making men's prisons such horrid places?

Well that would be the men in them.

The argument that we cannot put delicate flowers like TW in them because men are so nasty, violent, yada yada - needs to read the judgement this week on the bastard that sexually assaulted that little girl he kidnapped and very likely would have killed if she hadn't managed to get help. And look at the severity of the injuries White inflicted on his victims. And then look up Tiffany Scott and Barbie Kardashian. All of these males are as trans as anyone else.

Fandangled · 19/10/2023 09:35

JKR is a hero - an incredible woman and role model. This just makes me love her even more.

The thing she says should be bloody obvious. How anyone can defend compelled speech is beyond me.

heathspeedwell · 19/10/2023 09:31

Criminal behaviour is an area where sex really matters. Men commit around 99% of sex crimes and the vast majority of violent crime.

Women who are imprisoned tend to be convicted of things like non-payment of fines.

Of course women's prisons are less hellish than men's prisons - that's because women are much, much less likely to be violent than men. Which is precisely why we don't want men - however they identify - in women's prisons.

DarkDayforMN · 19/10/2023 09:23

Female criminals are treated with kindness and compassion

no, they’re not. The reason female prisons are less hellish than male prisons isn’t your imaginary “kindness and compassion,” it is the absence of men. The “solution” with transwomen is to keep them out just like all the other men.

Chersfrozenface · 19/10/2023 09:22

Cismyfatarse · 19/10/2023 09:16

And remember that JKR lives in Scotland so in her prison cell (unless sharing with menopausal me) could be the likes of Katie Dokatowski, or the peadophile butcher Amy George. That is if women like JKR hadn't protested when Tiffany Scott was put in the Scottish women's prison (there is just one prison up here for women and 'women')

In the interests of accuracy, Andrew Miller / Amy George is being treated as a man by the criminal justice system, at his own request, and will be sent to a male prison.

Well, at least initially.

IncomingTraffic · 19/10/2023 09:19

Don’t be diverted by this nonsense about how women have it so much easier and how it’s such a shame English has gendered pronouns. it’s total distraction tactics.

Labour propose stupid policy thinking it puts up a big ‘we are kind and progressive sign’. JKR responds to that stupid policy.

She probably wouldn’t go to prison - not because she’s rich or whatever, but because it’s such an utterly stupid suggestion that any legal representative should be able to drive a bus through the holes in this kind of legislation.

And there’d be massive public support for any women being tried and imprisoned for calling a biological man ‘he’.

Cismyfatarse · 19/10/2023 09:16

And remember that JKR lives in Scotland so in her prison cell (unless sharing with menopausal me) could be the likes of Katie Dokatowski, or the peadophile butcher Amy George. That is if women like JKR hadn't protested when Tiffany Scott was put in the Scottish women's prison (there is just one prison up here for women and 'women')

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NotBadConsidering · 19/10/2023 09:12

Female criminals are treated with kindness and compassion.

Apart from the ones who were locked up with Karen White and sexually assaulted by him.

ArabellaScott · 19/10/2023 09:06

spookehtooth · 18/10/2023 23:16

You made out the only thing stopping you was alleged red flags, you're still talking like its okay ... and its not, its a terrible thing to even think is okay let alone do it

Try rereading, perhaps a little more slowly.

As for thoughtcrime ... where do I even begin.

qwertyuiopasdfgh · 19/10/2023 08:47

We need more people like JKR. Wonderful woman.

Helleofabore · 19/10/2023 08:43

I think Joanne Rowling would have many of us in there for the same offense. But it would be a ridiculous indication of the state of law if it would get to that point. It would be a mass awakening on snooze after the alarm.

Helleofabore · 19/10/2023 08:40

AlphaTransWoman · 18/10/2023 22:57

I dearly wish the English language did not have gendered pronouns. This whole damn problem would immediately disappear.

And yet you are on another thread scolding women for being mean about pronoun use for a clearly misogynistic individual. Or is it the scolding part that you like.

Don’t worry though, telling women to be kind to a person who is mocking them and taking opportunities away from female people by declaring they are one while mocking them is what women and girls have been told since birth to accept. Making sure we use the correct pronoun and the preferred sex category rather than material reality is just business as usual, isn’t it?

Ofcourseshecan · 19/10/2023 08:34

Cismyfatarse · 18/10/2023 22:03

When I get banged up for standing up for reality, I really, really want to share a cell with JKR.

Me too! Everything I hear about JKR, I love and admire her more.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 19/10/2023 08:33

Isn't JKR famously not a billionaire, because she's given away so much money to good causes, including research into multiple sclerosis and charities focusing on women and children? What a woman.

I see as usual JKR's comments on women's rights have been automatically heard as a comment on trans issues.

We should get 'I must not tell lies' trending on Twitter if it isn't already.

Helleofabore · 19/10/2023 08:30

spookehtooth · 18/10/2023 23:16

You made out the only thing stopping you was alleged red flags, you're still talking like its okay ... and its not, its a terrible thing to even think is okay let alone do it

I know we are supposed to be just six women with lots of sock puppets but I don’t think rightsraptor and arabella are the same. And I don’t think you can assume that rightsraptor would also go around asking questions of strangers as rightsraptor was using this as an example of different intentions and actions. I mean, I could be wrong and rights would be right to correct my mistake about their writings…

Terfosaurus · 19/10/2023 08:23

Everytime she speaks i love her a little bit more

IncomingTraffic · 19/10/2023 08:20

Who cares about whether prisons are nice? Thats completely not the point here.

HiddenLegoOuch · 19/10/2023 08:19

AlphaTransWoman · 18/10/2023 22:57

I dearly wish the English language did not have gendered pronouns. This whole damn problem would immediately disappear.

The problem isn't about gendered pronouns, it is about those who insist everyone else should comply by lying about reality.

WickedSerious · 19/10/2023 08:06

AlphaTransWoman · 19/10/2023 02:16

Well obviously I've never been to one. But everything I have read about them (including HMIP reports) suggests they are considerably more pleasant environments to be confined in than men's prisons.

HMP Low Newton (the highest security women's prison in the UK) has an extensive set of gardens and a petting zoo. I don't think they have those at Belmarsh.

Female criminals are treated with kindness and compassion. I'm not saying that is wrong. But it does create problems when it comes to trans women. I'm not sure what the right approach is here.

Lock them up with the other men,it's no problem at all.

Waitwhat23 · 19/10/2023 07:42

AlphaTransWoman · 19/10/2023 02:16

Well obviously I've never been to one. But everything I have read about them (including HMIP reports) suggests they are considerably more pleasant environments to be confined in than men's prisons.

HMP Low Newton (the highest security women's prison in the UK) has an extensive set of gardens and a petting zoo. I don't think they have those at Belmarsh.

Female criminals are treated with kindness and compassion. I'm not saying that is wrong. But it does create problems when it comes to trans women. I'm not sure what the right approach is here.

The obvious approach would be to improve male prisons and for males prisoners incarcerated therein to be treated with kindness and respect than to use female prisons as a useful resource for males who quite fancy having access to a petting zoo.

IncomingTraffic · 19/10/2023 07:38

Stephannee · 19/10/2023 01:42

Upper class billionaire white women don't tend to go to prison very often if at all. She can say what she wants knowing comfortably she can afford the best lawyers money can buy (unlike most of us).

Anyway isn't she meant to be "cancelled"? She's in the media non stop harping on about trans people.

Actually she’s talking about really stupid policy announcements from the Labour Party.

AutumnCrow · 19/10/2023 07:31

JKR seems to be very good at rattling cages, so to speak.

Datun · 19/10/2023 05:34

spookehtooth · 18/10/2023 23:13

You think its okay to approach a stranger in the street walking around and minding their own business, in spaces everyone agrees they have the lawful right to be, for the specific purposes of getting into some kind of argument?

I think you have some issues of your own. Nobody deserves their day to disrupted like that, for any reason whatsoever. You're no different to a man cat calling, wolf whistling or giving a woman any of the unwanted attention they get going about their day, minding their own business.

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Do you really believe that if women genuinely think they are being forced to participate in a man's fetish, erroneous self image or power play, they can't say anything??

You're no different to a man cat calling, wolf whistling or giving a woman any of the unwanted attention

lol

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