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Tough Crowd - Graham Linehan

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Greenfairy2468 · 17/10/2023 23:42

I pre ordered this book ages ago, just got an email from Amazon saying my order is delayed and they'll let me know when they'll despatch it.

Had this happened to anyone else? Is the publication delayed or have the not got enough??

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IDontHateRainbows · 03/12/2023 13:26

NutellaEllaElla · 03/12/2023 12:38

"Cruddy", s'abit unnecessarily judgemental.

Oh the irony

TommyNever · 03/12/2023 13:11

NutellaEllaElla · 03/12/2023 12:38

"Cruddy", s'abit unnecessarily judgemental.

Well it's my personal opinion. And there's no point holding and expressing opinions about the value of this or that aspect of culture unless they are in fact judgemental.

NutellaEllaElla · 03/12/2023 12:38

"Cruddy", s'abit unnecessarily judgemental.

TommyNever · 03/12/2023 12:05

Started this the other day. Finding it a little disappointing so far, I suppose because I didn't realise how much he was into what I would regard as cruddy pop culture (comics, punk etc).

Still, there are some chuckles here and there and I'll persevere.

SmorgasBoards · 03/12/2023 07:42

ArthurbellaScott · 01/11/2023 16:30

https://guardianbookshop.com/tough-crowd-9781785633065

I see the Guardian are happy to profit from his 'entrenched and maniacal' views, too.

Right?!!

SuffragettesAreRollingInTheirFuckiingGraves · 02/12/2023 21:57

PermanentTemporary · 02/12/2023 19:50

It depends on your relationship with them. Christmas isn't a learning opportunity, to me.

I think everyone has to find their own path with this.

I think some might need a little shove up that path.

SuffragettesAreRollingInTheirFuckiingGraves · 02/12/2023 21:57

pronounsbundlebundle · 02/12/2023 19:41

I'm interested in the opinions of fellow MNetters. Do you think reading Tough Crowd could help men who are GC (i.e. realists) but scared of losing their jobs if they were to be openly so be a bit braver and more likely to support women and take their concerns seriously?

I have two such men I could gift this to for Xmas and I can't decide if it's going to be a 'courage calls to courage' moment or a 'fucking hell, look what happened to this incredibly successful man, imagine what could happen to me, I'm not going there' moment.

Both have decent and relatively influential jobs where I think they could do a bit of careful pushback without risking too much and both are determinedly not learning more about what's been happening IMO because if they learn about prisons and children etc then they might have to do something. Both think they are decent men who do the 'right thing'. Both have privately expressed to me they think it's all nonsense and 'of course men can't be women'. They are using the 'but it's a tiny minority and doesn't affect anyone else' line for now.

Literally buying this for mine right now!

Tinysoxxx · 02/12/2023 21:40

I gave it away to someone in the industry. He’s enjoying it. Hasn’t got to the last bit. I did warn him best not to be reading it if he’s ever inside Hat Tricks offices.

PermanentTemporary · 02/12/2023 19:50

It depends on your relationship with them. Christmas isn't a learning opportunity, to me.

I think everyone has to find their own path with this.

duc748 · 02/12/2023 19:49

I'm a man, and I think so. I'm about half-way through (still on the funny bit! 😀).

pronounsbundlebundle · 02/12/2023 19:44

Oh and of course I've tried to explain why it's important but my concerns have been shut down (I know, so lovely, I do think less of them for this but I still want to convince them of the importance of protecting women and children's rights as I think they could do some good). I think they might be more likely to listen to Glinner. Both love Father Ted.

pronounsbundlebundle · 02/12/2023 19:41

I'm interested in the opinions of fellow MNetters. Do you think reading Tough Crowd could help men who are GC (i.e. realists) but scared of losing their jobs if they were to be openly so be a bit braver and more likely to support women and take their concerns seriously?

I have two such men I could gift this to for Xmas and I can't decide if it's going to be a 'courage calls to courage' moment or a 'fucking hell, look what happened to this incredibly successful man, imagine what could happen to me, I'm not going there' moment.

Both have decent and relatively influential jobs where I think they could do a bit of careful pushback without risking too much and both are determinedly not learning more about what's been happening IMO because if they learn about prisons and children etc then they might have to do something. Both think they are decent men who do the 'right thing'. Both have privately expressed to me they think it's all nonsense and 'of course men can't be women'. They are using the 'but it's a tiny minority and doesn't affect anyone else' line for now.

NutellaEllaElla · 02/12/2023 13:37

So strange that he wants to bury the USP of the site. Posted is generic, could be any messaging forum.

ArthurbellaScott · 01/12/2023 20:31

Twixt, surely.

Villagetoraiseachild · 01/12/2023 18:56

Tweexted?

AutumnCrow · 01/12/2023 08:23

NutellaEllaElla · 01/12/2023 06:05

Yes he tweeted (Xd? How are we supposed to call it these days?) that himself.

Apparently, 'tweeted' has become 'posted'. And 're-tweeted' has become 're-posted'.

It's mad, Ted.

Abhannmor · 01/12/2023 08:12

Wow that's amazing. Signing more copies eh. No wonder he's gone quiet 🤫. Good news though...

NutellaEllaElla · 01/12/2023 06:05

GrimDamnFanjo · 01/12/2023 00:27

I think I've seen the book is now on a third reprint and @glinner is doing some more signed copies.

Yes he tweeted (Xd? How are we supposed to call it these days?) that himself.

duc748 · 01/12/2023 00:33

That's good to hear.

GrimDamnFanjo · 01/12/2023 00:27

I think I've seen the book is now on a third reprint and @glinner is doing some more signed copies.

IMustDoMoreExercise · 30/11/2023 21:03

ArthurbellaScott · 30/11/2023 17:43

Audiobook free with an Audible book trial, in case this hasn't been posted:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Tough-Crowd-Made-Career-Comedy/dp/B0CLMFP9PT/ref=sr_1_1

Thanks for that.

ArthurbellaScott · 30/11/2023 17:43

Audiobook free with an Audible book trial, in case this hasn't been posted:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Tough-Crowd-Made-Career-Comedy/dp/B0CLMFP9PT/ref=sr_1_1

IMustDoMoreExercise · 30/11/2023 17:41

Got my copy today and looking forward to reading it.

I have never buy autobiographies, but I wanted to support him.

NutellaEllaElla · 14/11/2023 19:31

Oh that's a pain, I wanted to watch it.

UtopiaPlanitia · 14/11/2023 16:38

IcakethereforeIam · 12/11/2023 17:11

He's also interviewed on the Telegraph Book Club. I didn't even know the Telegraph had a YouTube channel.

I've not watched it myself yet. It's had over 5000 views, vastly more than some other author interviews on the channel.

I went to watch the Telegraph Book Club interview and it’s now hidden, marked as private 😳 Anyone got any info as to what happened?

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