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Trans prisoner who was cleared to go women's prison

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Electricblankettime · 16/10/2023 00:26

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12633157/Scotland-transgender-prisoner-convicted-assaulting-guards-life-sentence.html

Is isla bryson case hadn't highlighted what was going on this males move to a women's prison would have happened. With such violent tendencies how many women would have been hurt?

Trans prisoner convicted of assaulting guards during her life sentence

Tiffany Scott, 32, went on trial last week and was convicted of four assaults, behaving in a threatening or abusive manner and a vandalism charge. She is being held at HMP Low Moss.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12633157/Scotland-transgender-prisoner-convicted-assaulting-guards-life-sentence.html

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Angrycat2768 · 16/10/2023 08:16

This person hadn't even made the minimal effort to turn into a woman. At least Isla Bryson bought a bad wig.

catduckgoose · 16/10/2023 08:15

@gotomomo

Men's prisons already have provisions for vulnerable prisoners, there's no reason to house any male in the women's prisons.

Milarky · 16/10/2023 08:14

There does need to be some flexibility though, a transperson post surgery fully transitioned for a non violent offence is just not the same as a violent person, perhaps a sexual offence who only proclaims to be trans once in the justice system.

Nope still a man. A third space maybe, but def not in a women's prison.

MargotBamborough · 16/10/2023 07:59

Referring to these people as "she" is fucking obscene. When do we stop playing this game?

popebishop · 16/10/2023 07:57

Transitioning is finished when you declare you are a woman. Why would you insist people have any surgery in order to be treated differently from other male people?

gotomomo · 16/10/2023 07:54

There does need to be some flexibility though, a transperson post surgery fully transitioned for a non violent offence is just not the same as a violent person, perhaps a sexual offence who only proclaims to be trans once in the justice system.

I don't think people should have the right to commence transitioning once in the criminal justice system, but allow common sense judgments to be made on welfare and practicality grounds for those who transitioned. This flexibility should never be applied in sexual offence cases.

Tessisme · 16/10/2023 07:49

Theloftmonster · 16/10/2023 07:41

I like the use of she in this piece, especially with the photo of a hairy arsed criminal next to it. It will annoy people who haven't peaked yet, flagging up how ridiculous it is. It isn't written for those GC already, it's written to educate average Joe.

I'm inclined to agree. I have seen a few articles like this and nothing jars more than 'she displayed her penis' or some other such ludicrous terminology. It very effectively draws attention to the Emperor's new clothes.

Chersfrozenface · 16/10/2023 07:47

Theloftmonster · 16/10/2023 07:41

I like the use of she in this piece, especially with the photo of a hairy arsed criminal next to it. It will annoy people who haven't peaked yet, flagging up how ridiculous it is. It isn't written for those GC already, it's written to educate average Joe.

Some papers (which are regularly derided as lying right-wing rags on MN, but there you go) did the same thing when reporting on Isla Bryson.

Used female pronouns and brilliantly chosen photos.

So kept to the practice they are pressured into by the legal system and the Independent Press Standards Organisation of using chosen pronouns. But also suggested the truth very strongly.

Theloftmonster · 16/10/2023 07:41

I like the use of she in this piece, especially with the photo of a hairy arsed criminal next to it. It will annoy people who haven't peaked yet, flagging up how ridiculous it is. It isn't written for those GC already, it's written to educate average Joe.

SunnieShine · 16/10/2023 07:34

ATowerOfGiraffes · 16/10/2023 07:31

The use of She and Her throughout the article really bothered me. I would have preferred they use surname "Scott" or alternative linguistic gymnastics.

Or simply refer to him as a man, since that is what he is? Call me old fashioned...

ATowerOfGiraffes · 16/10/2023 07:31

The use of She and Her throughout the article really bothered me. I would have preferred they use surname "Scott" or alternative linguistic gymnastics.

stayflufft · 16/10/2023 00:29

‘Tiffany’. Bloody hell. It angers me so much that this man’s crimes will be recorded as being committed by a woman. He is not a woman and never will be.