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JK Rowling came to Filia 2023 and it was emotional

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Ndd135632 · 15/10/2023 14:59

She is a legend of our time for all women. She spoke about the rape crisis centre she has funded and many other things.

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Snowdayplease · 17/10/2023 14:33

ArabellaScott · 17/10/2023 09:20

'There’s various workshops and sessions that are under the guise of women’s safety that are trans-exclusionary.'

Which workshops and sessions does Holly Bruce of the Greens actually mean here? She should spell it out.

I don't think transmen would have been excluded from them? The entire conference was "men exclusionary" in as much as men couldn't attend, which was done for the legitimate aim of allowing women to come together to speak about issues in safety and dignity.
They never mean trans men though, do they?

itsmylife7 · 17/10/2023 13:08

How amazing to show your support for Women.
What a lovely boost to all the amazing Women fighting for our rights. 💪

ArabellaScott · 17/10/2023 12:21

EmpressaurusOfCats · 17/10/2023 10:53

This was the excuse the Portsmouth protest organisers used too. Something along the lines of ‘We’re feminists too! We’d be in there supporting you if you weren’t so anti-trans.’

If only women would centre males when talking about FGM, there would have been no need for the large male to shout 'Fuck you' at them through a karaoke machine.

That Glasgow politicians were there in support of this gross misogynist abuse is obscene, frankly.

vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 17/10/2023 12:18

Syrupyslop · 17/10/2023 10:57

This.

But that is their goal isn’t it? By inserting males into feminism, and into all women’s organizations, they get to ensure that women can never discuss, organise, decide or act without a male agreeing to all of this, and ensuring nothing we do upsets or bothers males.

I mean, that’s their goal isn’t it? I don’t think it is about validation. I think it’s about controlling, and destroying, feminism.

It might be their goal, but it's not working.

I used to be kind. I used to allow men in my spaces and use pronouns. Their endless demands and nastiness radicalised me and now I'm the terfiest of all the terfs and good fucking luck to them because I'm a peaking machine.

HowDoesThisWorkPlease · 17/10/2023 11:31

HaloStar

Syrupyslop · 17/10/2023 10:57

MargotBamborough · 17/10/2023 10:04

Women don't need any kind of "guise" to talk about things which don't include or concern male people who identify as women. We don't need an excuse, or a reason, or their permission, to talk about issues affecting our own lives or those of other women. They are just going to have to get over that because women are sick of pandering to them.

This.

But that is their goal isn’t it? By inserting males into feminism, and into all women’s organizations, they get to ensure that women can never discuss, organise, decide or act without a male agreeing to all of this, and ensuring nothing we do upsets or bothers males.

I mean, that’s their goal isn’t it? I don’t think it is about validation. I think it’s about controlling, and destroying, feminism.

EmpressaurusOfCats · 17/10/2023 10:53

This was the excuse the Portsmouth protest organisers used too. Something along the lines of ‘We’re feminists too! We’d be in there supporting you if you weren’t so anti-trans.’

Waitwhat23 · 17/10/2023 10:32

MargotBamborough · 17/10/2023 10:04

Women don't need any kind of "guise" to talk about things which don't include or concern male people who identify as women. We don't need an excuse, or a reason, or their permission, to talk about issues affecting our own lives or those of other women. They are just going to have to get over that because women are sick of pandering to them.

Quite. When Cllr Gallagher was wanging on about not being against the conference per se but that certain speakers and sessions should be expunged because they're not 'inclusive' enough, I just thought -

No. Fuck off.

MargotBamborough · 17/10/2023 10:06

vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 17/10/2023 09:38

The most exasperating thing is that the protestors, ether the ones physically outside screeching "fuck you" at rape survivors or the ones online or in political parties, seem to think that FILIA is about gender. Of course gender was discussed - as it relates to women's rights - but there wasn't a session of "let's fuck over the trans".

We're just not that into you, TRAs. You are the main character in your own life, not anyone else's. You don't matter that much.

This.

But what do you expect? Every time JKR even mentions women's rights the entire media starts losing its shit about the fact that she has yet again said something about trans rights.

We say "women", they hear "trans".

They can't comprehend the fact that not everything is about them. Most things are not about them, in fact.

MargotBamborough · 17/10/2023 10:04

ArabellaScott · 17/10/2023 09:20

'There’s various workshops and sessions that are under the guise of women’s safety that are trans-exclusionary.'

Which workshops and sessions does Holly Bruce of the Greens actually mean here? She should spell it out.

Women don't need any kind of "guise" to talk about things which don't include or concern male people who identify as women. We don't need an excuse, or a reason, or their permission, to talk about issues affecting our own lives or those of other women. They are just going to have to get over that because women are sick of pandering to them.

vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 17/10/2023 09:38

The most exasperating thing is that the protestors, ether the ones physically outside screeching "fuck you" at rape survivors or the ones online or in political parties, seem to think that FILIA is about gender. Of course gender was discussed - as it relates to women's rights - but there wasn't a session of "let's fuck over the trans".

We're just not that into you, TRAs. You are the main character in your own life, not anyone else's. You don't matter that much.

ArabellaScott · 17/10/2023 09:20

'There’s various workshops and sessions that are under the guise of women’s safety that are trans-exclusionary.'

Which workshops and sessions does Holly Bruce of the Greens actually mean here? She should spell it out.

Syrupyslop · 17/10/2023 09:07

WorkingItOutAsIGo · 15/10/2023 15:45

She was so wonderful. Funny, warm, passionate, angry - just everything. And so knowledgeable and intelligent too. She really is a very special human being. It was especially lovely to see the warmth of her personal relationships with so many of the women in the room - she’s truly genuinely wonderful. Every minute was magical.

All of this.

RhannionKPSS · 17/10/2023 00:49

I hope Jo got one of the beautiful Selkie t shirts , and the beautiful bags & notebooks too. ❤️

Villagetoraiseachild · 16/10/2023 19:50

Happy tears that this happened, what loveliness! I bet she had a lovely time too.

MargotBamborough · 16/10/2023 19:44

SapphosRock · 16/10/2023 19:24

Pink News has been uncharacteristically quiet. Usually they cover anything to do with JK Rowling.

Maybe they, like Humza Yousaf, have realised that shouting down women who have gathered to talk about things like surviving FGM isn't a good look.

SapphosRock · 16/10/2023 19:24

Pink News has been uncharacteristically quiet. Usually they cover anything to do with JK Rowling.

TheGodS · 16/10/2023 15:43

The CVent app that we were using at FILIA let's you. Go to The Conversation bit. I've booked mine.

SassyBiblio · 16/10/2023 14:10

2025 south of england

GCRadfem · 16/10/2023 11:56

Yes!! It was amazing, wasn't it?! I cried so much! She is absolutely brilliant, hilarious and strong. Thank you JK for always standing up for women and girls!

EmpressaurusOfCats · 16/10/2023 11:13

RhannionKPSS · 16/10/2023 11:05

I think the talk will be up on Filia at some point, there was an “ official “ woman filming and we were asked not to film.

Please have a look at the film on women in the Congo as their presentation was on at the same time as Jo was being interviewed.

Poor women! I’d guess that as soon as the word went out, all sessions on at the same time would have emptied quite fast.

MargotBamborough · 16/10/2023 11:07

flyingbuttress43 · 16/10/2023 10:46

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/10/15/rowling-trans-issues-harry-potter/

"I can afford to take the hit and speak out on trans issues"

The comments are unanimously pro Jo.

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