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Call a Waaahmbulance for r/glasgow on Reddit

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ditalini · 12/10/2023 17:24

https://www.reddit.com/r/glasgow/comments/17685xs/platform_is_hosting_an_antitrans_organization/

Their minds are as tight shut as a gnat's chuff.

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https://www.reddit.com/r/glasgow/comments/17685xs/platform_is_hosting_an_antitrans_organization

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yourhairiswinterfire · 12/10/2023 21:40

Okay, I'll try again without being snippy...

Every single staff member suddenly 'falling ill' at the same time, on the day an event their venue had already attempted to unlawfully cancel is due to take place, is not a clever way to get around not being allowed to unlawfully discriminate against people.

IIRC, when it was suggested that the staff at The Stand should try this as a way to de-platform Joanna Cherry (after The Stand had accepted they were discriminating and reversed the cancellation), some lawyers said that this would then allow the person discriminated against to sue the staff members individually, along with the venue for allowing their staff to discriminate.

And it's not just gender critical women that speak at FiLiA events. The most amazing women come from all over the world to speak about femicide, FGM, forced abortion, rape, sex trafficking, torture, oppression, and many other problems affecting women and girls worldwide, right now.

But instead of actually listening to what these speakers have to say, some TRAs are just so desperate to stop their voices being heard. They've previously protested by holding signs that demand ''suck my cock you transphobic cunt'' as these women talk of rape, as they talk of how when they were just little girls they were taken to have their genitals mutilated with rusty tools and no pain relief. They attempt to deny these women a supportive place to speak about these issues. Why? How does muzzling oppressed women help trans rights?

MrsOvertonsWindow · 12/10/2023 21:38

Stephannee · 12/10/2023 21:35

"This thread has been locked by the moderators of r/glasgow
New comments cannot be posted"

I wonder why

Presumably the incessant bullying of women has been noticed and decent people have taken a stand?

334bu · 12/10/2023 21:38

The venue has been well aware of the cintent of the conference, however ,by leaving it till the last moment to try and cancel, they can say to the TRAs , poor us we couldn't do anything else, while still gaining the custom of over 1000 -1500 women . Maybe, however, those same 1000 + women should avail themselves of all of the other myriad places in the vicinity to eat and drink., as this venue doesn't seem to really want our custom.

Stephannee · 12/10/2023 21:35

"This thread has been locked by the moderators of r/glasgow
New comments cannot be posted"

I wonder why

SpicyMoth · 12/10/2023 21:26

Page won't load for me anymore, that the same for anyone else?

Edit; Seems the OP blocked me simply for saying that I think both sides have extremists and that "no debate" rhetoric is making matters worse. Even impartiality is transphobic it seems... 😱

Waitwhat23 · 12/10/2023 21:09

HermioneWeasley · 12/10/2023 19:27

I would think the venue would have to take all reasonable steps not to allow their employees to discriminate either - so warn of disciplinary sanctions etc

That appears to be likely what the Stand staff were told so resorted to such unedifying behaviour as being rude to paying customers, making disruptive noise and projecting a message onto the backdrop once the event was over.

All because someone they disagreed with 1) spoke and 2) dared to offer a microphone for anyone (including themselves) to make comments/ask questions.

Grown adults having toddler temper tantrums basically.

yourhairiswinterfire · 12/10/2023 20:28

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WickedSerious · 12/10/2023 20:27

SpicyMoth · 12/10/2023 19:52

Jesus the comments...

"I'd say requiring someone to have surgery to conform to others' standards of womanhood to exist in public gendered spaces is pretty invasive."

"Other's standards" of womanhood eh?
As opposed to what... Long hair..? Makeup...? Panties & hosiery rather than boxers?
What should the 'standard' be in their eyes, literally just saying so?

If my eyes rolled any more, they'd fall out.

I'd say 'the standard' is being born female.

ArabellaScott · 12/10/2023 20:24

Filia has been booked for months. The venue will have been well aware what the event involved.

It's only because they've been terrorised that they've tried to cancel.

PorcelinaV · 12/10/2023 20:12

Stephannee · 12/10/2023 19:18

Just a thought? What if a "gender critical" person were to speak at such an event and on the day all the venue staff suddenly said they felt ill and had to go home?

I think there is an argument for especially smaller businesses, not having to be involved in activities that they view as unethical.

But really, if they can't handle people saying things that everyone believed up until 5 minutes ago, then it's difficult to see that they have much of a commitment to democracy and free speech.

ArabellaScott · 12/10/2023 20:10

Well I have joined up and it seems nice. There's a hiking group! Who knew?!

GailBlancheViola · 12/10/2023 19:56

The sheer unmitigated rubbish that pours forth from TRAs.

SpicyMoth · 12/10/2023 19:52

Jesus the comments...

"I'd say requiring someone to have surgery to conform to others' standards of womanhood to exist in public gendered spaces is pretty invasive."

"Other's standards" of womanhood eh?
As opposed to what... Long hair..? Makeup...? Panties & hosiery rather than boxers?
What should the 'standard' be in their eyes, literally just saying so?

If my eyes rolled any more, they'd fall out.

ArabellaScott · 12/10/2023 19:41

Just a thought: what if a venue's staff all felt 'ill' and had to go home when they were due to serve a party of Muslims?

ApocalipstickNow · 12/10/2023 19:39

Just a thought? What if a "gender critical" person were to speak at such an event and on the day all the venue staff suddenly said they felt ill and had to go home?
I’d imagine the whole venue would need to be closed for a few days to give it a deep clean if all the staff were ill. Maybe even need investigating by environmental health. Would probably be quite costly to make it safe to work in again. It’s not as if all the staff would be lying is it?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 12/10/2023 19:28

If women are a "concept that does not exist" then how do the men that demand we call them women a) know what a woman actually is and b) know that they "identify/feel" like one?

Make this fucking arsewash make sense!!!!

Yes, I wonder where this ineffable "woman" identity emerged from?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 12/10/2023 19:27

Now FiLiA and their allies are allegedly "forcibly turning kids into the opposite sex against their will until they are 18". Who knew?

HermioneWeasley · 12/10/2023 19:27

Stephannee · 12/10/2023 19:18

Just a thought? What if a "gender critical" person were to speak at such an event and on the day all the venue staff suddenly said they felt ill and had to go home?

I would think the venue would have to take all reasonable steps not to allow their employees to discriminate either - so warn of disciplinary sanctions etc

terryleather · 12/10/2023 19:26

Ereshkigalangcleg · 12/10/2023 19:18

Newsflash: Actual women are a "concept that does not exist" because there is no way to define us, according to a poster there.

If women are a "concept that does not exist" then how do the men that demand we call them women a) know what a woman actually is and b) know that they "identify/feel" like one?

Make this fucking arsewash make sense!!!!

Ereshkigalangcleg · 12/10/2023 19:18

Newsflash: Actual women are a "concept that does not exist" because there is no way to define us, according to a poster there.

Stephannee · 12/10/2023 19:18

Just a thought? What if a "gender critical" person were to speak at such an event and on the day all the venue staff suddenly said they felt ill and had to go home?

Freshstart78 · 12/10/2023 19:16

That’s gone pretty well by Reddit standards

RealityFan · 12/10/2023 19:13

ditalini · 12/10/2023 17:24

Just reading the comments. Love it!
A venue person saying since Forstater ruling that it's not legal to hold up a No Entry sign.

Finally. Finally! It's getting thru to these people that the days of No Platforming are over for good.

I'm sure this comment is monumental, because it means the sign has gone up, GCs cannot be shut down and have their opportunities to meet and publicise withdrawn.

If sanity properly returns, and I believe it will, we'll look back to Maya, and Allison, and salute just how critical the outcomes of their cases were to the war that was won.

What a bunch of absolute cry babies. Were we ever gonna allow society and the outcomes for women to be controlled by the 2023 equivalent of Rick from the Young Ones, just with less maturity and more hysteria? It did look that way for a few years.

IcakethereforeIam · 12/10/2023 19:10

I got the impression that Glinner felt a bit sorry for them. If not the first venue, then definitely the second one.

Stephannee · 12/10/2023 19:07

Well it's easy to tell from the thread which users are "gender critical". As we've seen from the "experiment" on the other thread Reddit is good at handing out bans to abusive users.

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