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Call a Waaahmbulance for r/glasgow on Reddit

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ditalini · 12/10/2023 17:24

https://www.reddit.com/r/glasgow/comments/17685xs/platform_is_hosting_an_antitrans_organization/

Their minds are as tight shut as a gnat's chuff.

Reddit - Dive into anything

https://www.reddit.com/r/glasgow/comments/17685xs/platform_is_hosting_an_antitrans_organization

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SpicyMoth · 13/10/2023 00:38

Panastasia · 13/10/2023 00:15

Another fun day over on Reddit. Reminds me of the time on a UK sub thread about womens prisons, when I said only biological women should be in there, and I was told it was on me if transwomen were raped, abused or killed in mens prisons. And then I was banned from the sub.

Reddit really doesn’t like women with opinions.

"I was told it was on me if transwomen were raped, abused or killed in mens prisons"

As if to say the rape of a transwoman is inherently worse than that of a biological woman... Good god. Why does everything have to be a competition to TRA's?
Obviously it's not a competition, but do unwanted pregnancies as a result of rape just.. Not come into the equation?
Again, not a contest, but surely in terms of weighing things up, that's objectively worse just on the basis of there being more serious consequences that apply to one and not the other?

Remember ladies, It's on us! 😬

Panastasia · 13/10/2023 00:15

Another fun day over on Reddit. Reminds me of the time on a UK sub thread about womens prisons, when I said only biological women should be in there, and I was told it was on me if transwomen were raped, abused or killed in mens prisons. And then I was banned from the sub.

Reddit really doesn’t like women with opinions.

popebishop · 12/10/2023 23:16

Stephannee · 12/10/2023 19:18

Just a thought? What if a "gender critical" person were to speak at such an event and on the day all the venue staff suddenly said they felt ill and had to go home?

You mean, people would be dishonest rather than come up with literally any counter argument as to why a person shouldn't be critical of gender?

Yes, we'd noticed that. Glad you have too.

SpicyMoth · 12/10/2023 23:09

OvaHere · 12/10/2023 22:07

They know this. It's just linguistic nonsense again. What they really mean is 'those women literally believe men are not women' but they don't want to phrase it like that because most people will go well yeah. Doh!

See, I'd assumed this - but I seem to see so many on Twitter/X or Reddit using it literally, or at least talking around that rough phrase as if it's literal!

It's definitely food for thought in regards to how much people will just blindly believe even though they're told third or even fourth hand!

ArabellaScott · 12/10/2023 23:05

ditalini · 12/10/2023 22:12

Unless a whole load of you descended on that thread while I was doing the dishes, it was hardly a pile on.

I know they're probably mostly very young, but the mental fragility is really quite sad.

<sigh>

It was me. I piled on, with my whole self and my big coat.

Sorry, lads.

EmpressaurusOfCats · 12/10/2023 22:40

The TRAs protesting at FiLiA Portsmouth thought it was reasonable to chalk dick drawings & obscene phrases outside the venue, in a busy public square where children could see them. Also to drown out
women who were speaking about their experience of sexual abuse by shouting abusive comments loudly enough to be heard inside the building.

Where does that fit on the literal violence / pile on scale?

yourhairiswinterfire · 12/10/2023 22:34

What point are you actually trying to argue?

It looks like 'Reddit = good guys, Mumsnet = big fat meanie women = bad guys'.

That's the same Reddit, btw, that had a sub called 'Guys Should Rape' where men were allowed to share their rape fantasies, where actual rapists discussed their rape of women, and where wannabe rapists detailed their plans, and others asked the actual rapists for tips on how they could rape 'sluts' and then terrorize them into keeping quiet afterwards.

Want to know why the sub was banned?

Because rape is illegal, maybe? Because rape is vile? Because it was a hate sub encouraging violence against women and girls?

Nope. Because it was unmoderated. They banned it because it was unmoderated, not because of the content.

And there are plenty of other horrific subs that are moderated and allowed to stand on that lovely, progressive, good guy Reddit.

ditalini · 12/10/2023 22:19

AlisonDonut · 12/10/2023 22:13

It wasn't an actual pile on.

It was the thought of a pile on.

Literal violence.

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BluebellTimeInKent · 12/10/2023 22:17

Stephannee · 12/10/2023 19:18

Just a thought? What if a "gender critical" person were to speak at such an event and on the day all the venue staff suddenly said they felt ill and had to go home?

You would not be the first person to have that thought, as the Scottish Event Campus found out to their large cost. They had tried to cancel a Billy Graham Institute event on the basis ostensibly of 'security' and 'artists might refuse to play here' which were a smokescreen for belief discrimination, similar to your proposal of 'all staff fall ill' as a smokescreen for belief discrimination, and it cost them nearly £100,000. https://judiciary.scot/home/sentences-judgments/judgments/2022/10/25/billy-graham-evangelistic-association-v-scottish-event-campus-limited

Billy Graham Evangelistic Association v Scottish Event Campus Limited

See summaries of the judgments issued by Scottish judges.

https://judiciary.scot/home/sentences-judgments/judgments/2022/10/25/billy-graham-evangelistic-association-v-scottish-event-campus-limited

MargotBamborough · 12/10/2023 22:17

OvaHere · 12/10/2023 22:07

They know this. It's just linguistic nonsense again. What they really mean is 'those women literally believe men are not women' but they don't want to phrase it like that because most people will go well yeah. Doh!

Yes, well, no shit Sherlock.

Again, if we believed they were women there would be no issue with them using women's single sex spaces.

AlisonDonut · 12/10/2023 22:13

ditalini · 12/10/2023 22:12

Unless a whole load of you descended on that thread while I was doing the dishes, it was hardly a pile on.

I know they're probably mostly very young, but the mental fragility is really quite sad.

It wasn't an actual pile on.

It was the thought of a pile on.

ditalini · 12/10/2023 22:12

Unless a whole load of you descended on that thread while I was doing the dishes, it was hardly a pile on.

I know they're probably mostly very young, but the mental fragility is really quite sad.

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OvaHere · 12/10/2023 22:07

SpicyMoth · 12/10/2023 21:57

Just browsing through the comments again, can anyone at all explain the rationale between the lines "They literally believe trans people don't exist" and things similar? I've yet to be able to understand that part at all.

Who has EVER been on record saying that? Is there even anyone?
Obviously trans people exist.
The point of contention is the biology aspect and that there's more to being a woman than makeup and heels.

It always just gives off vibes of "It's not a phase mum!" teenage melodrama x-x

Edited

They know this. It's just linguistic nonsense again. What they really mean is 'those women literally believe men are not women' but they don't want to phrase it like that because most people will go well yeah. Doh!

Waitwhat23 · 12/10/2023 22:05

Ereshkigalangcleg · 12/10/2023 21:57

Debating on reddit is fine, but the mods generally dislike having to babysit so they often lock threads where toys are being thrown around.

LOL they'd have needed to lock it at the start then. Lots of whining from the TRAs about women's freedom of speech and association.

I was about to post similar - grown adults saying 'the nasty ladies are talking and I don't want them to! Waaah!'

Footstamp, flail arms, angry surfboard, cross arms, huff. Quite a few of us have dealt with toddler tantrums, unfortunately for the TRA's.

JanesLittleGirl · 12/10/2023 22:03

@Stephannee What point are you actually trying to argue?

ApocalipstickNow · 12/10/2023 22:02

And it’s interesting that Mumsnet don’t lock threads to prevent MRAs posting. You’re welcome as long as you stick to the talk guidelines. I’ve never heard that the MRAs and TRAs have struggled to phrase their posts in the way the feminists have to avoid deletion. Just ease off on the personal attacks and abuse and you’re free to post any arguments you can muster.

It’s just none of you ever can. It’s either cries of “too much bigotry!” (With no evidence) “science has changed!” (With no evidence) or flat out lies about what GC feminists are saying.

Christ, posters are even resorting to asking if a thread should be made where gender critical posters argue your case for you because your own arguments are so piss weak!

MargotBamborough · 12/10/2023 21:58

SpicyMoth · 12/10/2023 21:57

Just browsing through the comments again, can anyone at all explain the rationale between the lines "They literally believe trans people don't exist" and things similar? I've yet to be able to understand that part at all.

Who has EVER been on record saying that? Is there even anyone?
Obviously trans people exist.
The point of contention is the biology aspect and that there's more to being a woman than makeup and heels.

It always just gives off vibes of "It's not a phase mum!" teenage melodrama x-x

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It's so fucking stupid.

If we didn't believe trans people existed we wouldn't care which toilets they were using or which sporting categories they were competing in.

SpicyMoth · 12/10/2023 21:57

Just browsing through the comments again, can anyone at all explain the rationale between the lines "They literally believe trans people don't exist" and things similar? I've yet to be able to understand that part at all.

Who has EVER been on record saying that? Is there even anyone?
Obviously trans people exist.
The point of contention is the biology aspect and that there's more to being a woman than makeup and heels.

It always just gives off vibes of "It's not a phase mum!" teenage melodrama x-x

Ereshkigalangcleg · 12/10/2023 21:57

Debating on reddit is fine, but the mods generally dislike having to babysit so they often lock threads where toys are being thrown around.

LOL they'd have needed to lock it at the start then. Lots of whining from the TRAs about women's freedom of speech and association.

MargotBamborough · 12/10/2023 21:51

Stephannee · 12/10/2023 21:41

or maybe because the mods got a tip-off they were going to receive a pile-on from a certain forum (i.e. here)?

Debating on reddit is fine, but the mods generally dislike having to babysit so they often lock threads where toys are being thrown around.

Debating on Reddit is fine, as long as you don't disagree with gender ideology in any way. Then you get deleted and banned.

ApocalipstickNow · 12/10/2023 21:51

If it hasn’t been clear up until now it should be absolutely crystal that what these MRAs want is women to shut up talking about their oppression or lives or anything in actual fact.

When you demand women stop talking about their appalling experiences of FGM you should at least have the guts to own your misogyny.

MargotBamborough · 12/10/2023 21:51

Stephannee · 12/10/2023 21:35

"This thread has been locked by the moderators of r/glasgow
New comments cannot be posted"

I wonder why

Too many people disagreeing with them probably.

Helleofabore · 12/10/2023 21:50

Stephannee · 12/10/2023 19:18

Just a thought? What if a "gender critical" person were to speak at such an event and on the day all the venue staff suddenly said they felt ill and had to go home?

Well. I guess that if an employer had to hire temporary staff to cover the shift, those employees might find their jobs on shaky grounds due to unprofessional behaviour. if a small business cannot rely on its staff to act professionally towards customers, I expect that business will have to hire people who are reliable and professional.

MargotBamborough · 12/10/2023 21:46

Ereshkigalangcleg · 12/10/2023 17:47

The heartrending plight of the person who manages venues, having come to the realisation that since Maya Forstater's appeal win it's not legal for him to discriminate against women he doesn't like for their feminist views, despite all misleading TRA propaganda to the contrary 🎻

Some nice xenophobia in this reply:

"That is the fucking most British thing possible "oh we cant deplatform bigotry because being a bigot is protected under the law, but aren't we progressive for only making bigotry against certain minorities protected"."

Personally I like being from a country where it isn't illegal to say that humans can't change sex, and where women are actually fighting back against this assault on their rights.

Stephannee · 12/10/2023 21:41

MrsOvertonsWindow · 12/10/2023 21:38

Presumably the incessant bullying of women has been noticed and decent people have taken a stand?

or maybe because the mods got a tip-off they were going to receive a pile-on from a certain forum (i.e. here)?

Debating on reddit is fine, but the mods generally dislike having to babysit so they often lock threads where toys are being thrown around.

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