JK Rowling: Nandy 'one of the biggest reasons' women on Left don't trust Labour

More light, less heat is the one thing I actually agree on amongst all the garbage spouted by Labour MPs on this.

More light is exactly what is needed to illuminate the total idiocy of their position.

At the LP Conference:

JK wasn't the only person to mention it, but probably the highest profile person.

Lisa Nandy was singled out as she has recently made a speech about her support for women's rights.

Wish she was my MP.

Good for JKR. She is amazing. I'm listening to the witch trials podcast. I love her even more.

You've gotta fucking laugh at Labour MPs picking Common People.

"We are not the party of the unemployed"

Another Labour quote.

Has Nandy responded to JKR's tweet?

Kellie-Jay Keen: “Once you say transwomen are women, everything you say on that topic will be dishonest because the fundamental premise of your belief system is untrue.”

And to apply that further, from the amazing Sall Grover:

“If you think women have penises, I won’t believe a single word you say about anything else. Because if you will lie about something so obvious, I will assume you will lie about everything.”

And also Douglas Murray, pulling absolutely no punches:

https://x.com/talktv/status/1712463810941137288?s=46&t=SPorwN-mokktL467rcZ57g

Douglas Murray calls Lisa Nandy “a nincompoop” after she clashed with JK Rowling over her stance on trans issues.

“Just because somebody says that they are a unicorn does not mean we have to pretend that they are a unicorn. We have work to do.”

KJK with Julia Hartley Brewer on Talk TV earlier

https://x.com/talktv/status/1712469332201250909?s=46&t=SPorwN-mokktL467rcZ57g

Kellie-Jay Keen: “Once you say transwomen are women, everything you say on that topic will be dishonest because the fundamental premise of your belief system is untrue.”

@MorrisZapp She needs to come out and say what she defines as a woman.

And apologise for sacrificing the vulnerable women in prison.

Sorry but did I just listen to people CLAPPING at the idea of rapists going to prison with women???

Dont know whether to cry or swear profusely.

Seriously Labour sort yourself out

I agree Morris, as long as she doesn’t mean “women with penises”. The problem is with all the weasel words we’ve been subjected to we don’t trust what Nandy and others say, unless they are very explicit (biological women would do…)

Look. Surely we have to let people have a dignified course to row back.

I'm furious with Nandy's earlier airheaded pronouncements, but I wanted her to know better, do better etc.

If she accepts now that womens rights actually matter, I'm pleased to hear it.

You've gotta fucking laugh at Labour MPs picking Common People.

Haha seriously

You've gotta fucking laugh at Labour MPs picking Common People. The party is so far divorced from anything resembling fighting for working class people.

Their politics is all identity now (see Starmer's proposal for a new Race Relations Act, and his plans to make gender change easier, all he can see is identarian divides). He's not even proposing removing the 2-child cap on benefits, just how is he a champion of those at the bottom of the class struggle, or even middle classes struggling?

Wags on Warriors fans forums have suggested they be selected as the half-time entertainment at the Grand Final on Saturday!

In fact, Nandy has never shown the slightest interest in the rugby club, despite it being what makes Wigan famous world-wide; she appears to be much more interested in the football club, for some reason.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12617957/Labour-Jon-Ashworth-Lisa-Nandy-karaoke-Pulp-Keir-Starmer-conference.html

Remember folks, she was very nearly Labour leader. It's not unlikely she could have got the gig. She could have very well been the next PM. And Self ID would be on its way in.

And that's from the party who nearly inflicted Corbyn on us as PM.

I'd think more about these two characters genuinely representing Labour (hard Left, Corbyn, and progressive Left, Nandy) than bland Left, Starmer.

And what it means if a Labour govt comes in, with Rayner in the wings, not even a cigarette paper's difference with those infamous Nandy comments.

Also kept bringing up the "trans child in her constituency" for whom she was happy to throw women and girls under the bus.

To be given a specific example of a man who raped a child, and to reply that we should be sympathetic to his request to be held in a women's prison - and the inference that anyone who doesn't consider him a woman is a raging bigot - is abhorrent.

I agree, then in any subsequent media appearance during the leadership campaign and after when asked about women's sex based rights she just kept babbling about "more light, less heat"

Yes.

And this makes me even crosser.

She is passionate about the issues for women in the third world such as little girls being married to adult men, raped and dying in pregnancies their bodies weren't ready for. Such as girls being denied education.

Wonderful.

Are these women and girls needing this passion and support on the basis of their identity or the fact of their biological sex?

How many little boys are dying while trying to carry a pregnancy or give birth in a body too small and immature?

FGM....

It's absolute middle class wankery to on one hand trumpet about how wonderful you are for caring about all this and at the same time be trumpeting a lot of bull about how sex doesn't exist and men are women and women don't need single sex provision or words or rights.

It makes it very clear Nandy's busier identifying as being wonderful and caring about all the right things than she is in having a fucking clue or managing any kind of real integrity.