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Every day girls are being forced to have degrading, violent sex their boyfriends have seen in porn

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IwantToRetire · 09/10/2023 00:23

Almost every shift, it would happen again. A young girl writing in, describing what was quite clearly a rape, but not fully understanding that’s what had happened to her — almost always with a boy she was in a relationship with.

Every day, young girls would describe being pressured, coerced, manipulated, and downright forced to have painful sex, degrading sex, violent sex, and sex like their boyfriends had seen in porn. This charity wasn’t a rape crisis charity, but it was becoming one. I wasn’t a rape crisis worker, but I was becoming one. Quite quickly, I started to dread my shifts. After I’d clocked out, I didn’t feel fulfilled for my altruistic contribution to the world, but a deep rage at what was happening to young girls.

The impact of pornography appeared to infiltrate every shift. It happened in overt ways, like girls worried about the safety of being choked, or being expected to have anal sex, and then there were boys writing in, getting increasingly addicted to porn, unable to be turned on by a ‘real’ girl, and worried about their penis size or how long they can last. But there was a worrying covert impact too. A mass miseducation about what sexual consent really meant, sold to a generation raised on free, explicit, violent porn where up to 90% of the content shows physical aggression or violence, and women were the targets of this violence 97% of the time. Women in porn are almost always depicted as responding to this violence with pleasure or neutrality, meaning a generation of teens are internalising assumptions and expectations about the ‘sex’ expectation of young girls.

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/every-day-girls-being-forced-112806827.html

Not posted to promote a book, but to recognise that this has been discussed now for more than a few years, and if anything, it is getting worse.

‘Every day girls are being forced to have degrading, violent sex their boyfriends have seen in porn’

Holly Bourne’s latest novel is inspired by her time as an online sex advisor. She explains how it‘s taken her seven years to write about the dystopian sexual expectations that are sold to teens today

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/every-day-girls-being-forced-112806827.html

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TheirEminence · 09/10/2023 07:12

I don’t think most MN denizens object to sex education as such but to the pornification of sex education.

For what it’s worth, I think focusing on ‘positions’ and ‘consent’ is a very male-centric way of looking at things (to put it crudely: ‘how can I get my penis to its desired location and how can I make sure I don’t get into trouble after’), and a stronger emphasis on selecting a good lover, pleasure and how to have an orgasm would serve young girls much better.

Rightsraptor · 09/10/2023 07:12

I doubt many Mumsnetters who have 14 year old daughters live in the fantasy world you describe, @mincepieandcustard.

What they are often 'upset' or, as I'd see it, angry about is not knowing what their children are being taught about sex & relationships, with everyone concerned seemingly colluding to keep this information away from parents.

Why do they need to be instructed as to positions? They'll find that out for themselves.

mincepieandcustard · 09/10/2023 07:03

This exactly why sex education, including positions and different ways of having sex needs to be, and is being taught in schools, so that kids are being given more of a balanced education on sex and consent and what sex should be. The amount of mumsnetters who get upset about the content of their 14 year olds sex ed class live in a dream world that their child doesn't need such information yet. Of course they do, because even if by some miracle they've not become sexually active yet, when they do they need to be armed with information that isn't just to assume what they've seen, or their partner has seen in porn. It's the way of the world now unfortunately. The internet is Pandora's box.

cuckyplunt · 09/10/2023 06:25

Yes, well is anyone surprised? The policing of porn is horrendous, it is everywhere and it is horrible!

TheirEminence · 09/10/2023 06:22

Thanks for sharing.