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Trans discussions in New Zealnd

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NZadultwoman · 08/10/2023 19:34

Hi mums,
I am and immigrant to NZ from Africa. Lived here for 14 years. Always been pretty impressed with NZ until the last few years.
I am truly amazed at the lack of public discourse surrounding the trans ideology in this land. The level of public silenecing is astounding. I live in Wellington which is arguably the most radical left of the whole country. Major issues like allowing trans woman into female prisons were NEVER discussed publicly. The vast majority of people have no idea it's in law. Generally, people are terrified to speak up least they be washed with the evil "bigot" or worse, "unkind" brush. The youth (and especially the youth in academia and the arts) are the the most affected. This all became painfully obvious when I recently qhen back home to see family. The lively debate amonts and with young kids was so refreshing. So, I've immigrated to give my children better opportunities, but I have to question whether sacrificing their opptuinities to have open intellectual discourse is sensible. And New Zealanders feel the same?

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PomegranateOfPersephone · 08/10/2023 21:54

I think that women have it really rough in NZ at the moment @NZadultwoman from what I have read and seeing what happened to Kellie Kay Keen there.

I have never been there myself but hopefully some who have will be along to join the discussion here.

I find it interesting that people don’t seem to know what bigot means anymore. An obstinate and intolerant believer in a religion or political theory. Those of us who want to open up debate are not the bigots. The ones who hurl insults and threats at anyone who doesn’t believe as they do are actually the bigoted parties.

WorkingItOutAsIGo · 08/10/2023 21:53

NZ might be great for T rights, but it isn’t for LGB or women’s rights. OP, you need to gently gently find people who feel the same way.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 08/10/2023 21:49

They certainly stand up to abuse and bully women.

Stephannee · 08/10/2023 21:39

We aren't all mums.

NZ is one of the best countries in the world for LGBT rights. They certainly stand up whenever a bigot wants to enter the country to spread hate.