Dismissed by supposed ally husband

It's not up to your husband who you vote for. I'd stop talking to him about it. Do what you feel is right.

I'm really confused about why people have this blind faith in Labour sorting out the NHS, housing, the environment when on very basic issues they've shown that they're not willing to recognise incontrovertible scientific fact nor take steps to address any problems with this reality. They've shown they're willing to parrot magical thinking even when reality is right in front of them. And that magical thinking matters more than harm to children.

I have absolutely no faith in them whatsoever. Most of their policies seem very close to the Tories, they keep saying things like they won't raise taxes - well how are they going to make things better then? Any attempts to pin them down on where the money is going to come from for various high level plans seems to result in magical thinking and handwaving. The NHS already spends millions on EDI when there aren't enough nurses. The likelihood under Labour is that they'd spend more on EDI and simply identify as having more nurses.

They never seem to say anything original and a lot of their policies seem to have been dreamt up by A-level students with no grasp of reality nor ability to think strategically or risk assess, like the recent toothbrushing in school plan (like the school timetable isn't tight enough and teachers don't have enough to do already). I can't even imagine how much worse the D&V bugs would be if every child brought a toothbrush into school, the mind simply boggles at how any political party could come up with this. Have any of them ever set foot in a state school? Do they not think parents should be responsible for anything any more?

Of course, the Tories are also awful. Their only redeeming feature seems to be they're a bit more honest about how they're screwing over the country, whereas with Labour it's a case of 'but this turd identifies as a land of unicorns and rainbows....' and you MUST believe it.

I don't really want to vote for any of them.

Labour and the Unions are not the friends of women. They are a boys' club, always have been. You are just there to make the tea.

Birmingham Council - Labour run - declared itself bankrupt rather than pay out the money due to women under an equal pay ruling from more than a decade ago.

Your vote is your vote & therefore you absolutely‘ need’ to vote in line with your beliefs.

I won’t be voting Labour, not a cat in hells chance for a few reasons. I also won’t be voting tories again for a few reasons.

Nobody will be telling me to or not to vote for.

Yeah fully GC but will vote to get Tories out because of the need for social responsibility. Awful choice but the rational behind Tory decisions is often very different from mine and they do not speak for me.

@zurala because the Tories have just been fucking amazing for women’s rights haven’t they. You should come and do my job for a week - you’d never vote Tory again.

@agent765 really? 🙄 Who the fuck had the time to search through thousands of ballot papers to do that?

I will be voting conservative because to me this is a deal breaker issue. I can't vote for a party that thinks people can change sex or be of no sex. I have to vote for women's rights.
And I'm afraid it would be a deal-breaker in my relationship too.

@Toseland ridiculous post.

I’ll also be voting Labour - I’m GC but work in the public sector. We simply cannot survive another 13 years of this cruel incompetent government.

I was thanked nudge wink for voting for a candidate.

I asked how he knew and was told that our slips were cross-referenced with our card numbers.

makes me wish I was single!!

That can be arranged....

And i don't mean under the patio arranged... Although it's nice to dream!

please could you send me links that have the key GC arguments and that demonstrate why Labour is particularly problematic for women's concerns. I feel utterly betrayed.

Your DH is entitled to his own views. What good do you think it will do for you to bombard him with a whole load of links? You will simply infuriate him and confirm him in his belief that you are obsessed with this. Having his own opinions is not 'betraying' you.

You cannot control his thoughts and actions. Clearly he believes that single issue voting is not the way to go in this election.

He cannot insist that you vote the way he wants you to. You cannot insist that he agrees with you on trans issues.
Step back and leave him alone.

the science on climate change, and the road to getting there is alot more of a grey area that the simple reality of 'male and female'. There is no reason any government should get that wrong - unless swayed by ideology

That baying TRA mob who are looking for blood? they are no different from any other extremist, and I think they are the biggest threat to this country as it stands. The harm they could do if their ideology was unleashed would be bloody.

Those who fail to learn from history's mistakes are doomed to repeat them.

This who fail to notice the red flags of history's mistakes, are doomed to repeat them.

Ideological capture is Nazi Germany. We cannot ever have a government willing to stray from Truth, Reality, Science.

I don't see the Tories sticking any too rigidly to Science in their climate policies.

They just take whatever research and figures they think they can use to win votes, and bin the rest.

For example if it’s a safe Tory seat your votes don’t matter anyway

What kind of constituency? currently a Tory MP and there is a realistic chance of getting Labour at the election?

this is the crux of it actually (for me) - I CANNOT vote for a government which is vulnerable to ideological sway. Labour has absolutely proved it is willing to detach itself from truth in order to be popular /give in to ideological bullies. I would absolutely prefer a government who could withstand ideological capture, even if they werbt perfect ib other ways.

Ideological capture is Nazi Germany. We cannot ever have a government willing to stray from Truth, Reality, Science.

I too will be voting Labour, it's either vote Labour or don't vote. Which I can't do. There is not a chance in hell I'd ever vote Tory and there really is no one else. The Greens have made it clear how they don't want any GC people in their party but are quite happy to harbour paedos.

Gender ideology is predicated on the complete irrelevance of the needs of an oppressed majority. People supporting it do not really believe in equality and if those in power believe in it, they will be invested in pretending to look after the vulnerable whilst really only protecting their own interests. It's a supremacists ideology. But regardless of how he votes, saying this is all online noise suggests he either doesn't understand what's happening or doesn't care. I expect his callousness in that regard is more of the issue for you than anything else.

I'm with most of the answers here. Also gc but voting Labour. I'm life long Labour voter with the exception of last time solely because of their stance on this issue. I feel that enough has changed in the last year or two, the discourse has shifted, legal presidence is in place and that old phrase from here 'the tide has turned' that I feel that labours opinion will change to match public opinion if and when they are actually in power. Later then I would have liked but still.

Non of that should matter to your relationship situation as you need to resolve the disrespect if you have interpreted his actions correctly.

It depends if you actually think Labour will take over and fix these things - I don't. I think people are pinning too much hope on Labour, that all our problems will be solved. I think under Keir Starmer there will be lots of waffle, not much change ... But the very real potential we have self ID or some other horror....

I know where the Tories stand on women's rights

100% Labour - and I'm GC.

Our country shouldn't be in this state.

We need to ensure we have a working health service, housing, education and a working justice system. I will continue to be GC and to campaign for the issues but I don't think this country can take 5 more years of Tories.

He doesn't have to know who you vote for unless you tell him. Vote for who you like, you can always lie about it for an easy life, but you do need to write to the Labour party and tell them why you won't be voting for them. They need to know it's an issue.

I'll be voting labour because they get most things right. None of the parties is perfect but the Tories are fucking dangerous and need to go.