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Transwoman on being in a woman's ward

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ArabellaScott · 08/10/2023 15:52

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/trans-nhs-hospital-ward-mixed-tories-women-b2423144.html

''When it came to washing my body or clearing up after me, I was entirely dependent on nurses. They saw, wiped and dried every last inch of me.
A few days before my discharge, two nurses came to my bed, pulled the curtains closed for privacy and asked if I would mind telling them what it was like to be transgender.

We started chatting and at one point I said: “If you took every woman in this ward, stuck us all into stirrups and asked a gynae to take a good look, they wouldn’t be able to tell the difference between me and everyone.”

The nurses burst out laughing. “Oh, we know!” one of them exclaimed. “We’ve all been talking about it in the staff room. It looks just like the real thing!”'

...

'all humans begin their lives as female.'

I’m trans and fractured my spine – why don’t I belong on a women’s ward?

I look like a woman, sound like a woman and live as a woman, writes Diana Thomas. But the Conservatives believe, when in hospital, I don’t deserve the same kindness and compassion as other patients

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/trans-nhs-hospital-ward-mixed-tories-women-b2423144.html

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RoyalCorgi · 08/10/2023 17:02

Dear Lord.

Helleofabore · 08/10/2023 17:01

Isn’t Thomas the bouncing boobily individual?

A person who is beyond just ‘gender euphoria’.

EscapetotheShatto · 08/10/2023 17:00

AllProperTeaIsTheft · 08/10/2023 16:07

The nurses burst out laughing. “Oh, we know!” one of them exclaimed. “We’ve all been talking about it in the staff room. It looks just like the real thing!”'

What's that expression I'm searching for... Oh yes - "Cool story bro' " Hmm

I was thinking more along the lines of "bollocks".

CyberCritical · 08/10/2023 16:59

This journalist may pass in photos as a woman when wearing a polo neck and photoshopped heavily, but no one is going to make me believe that in hospital, without makeup that anyone thought this 6ft tall person was anything other than a Trans Woman

Transwoman on being in a woman's ward
DogsAkimbo · 08/10/2023 16:58

The nurses burst out laughing. “Oh, we know!” one of them exclaimed. “We’ve all been talking about it in the staff room. It looks just like the real thing!

And then they asked if they could have a sleepover. So we had pillow fights and brushed each other’s hair. We had a midnight feast too. It was annoying when the real women were calling for help because IT’S MY TURN!

The bit about putting a room full of women in stirrups sounds like he’s given real consideration to
it. I can’t say I would ever be imagining women being violated in that way.

quantumbutterfly · 08/10/2023 16:56

Is it possible that their spine is a bit more crumbly because a male body needs testosterone. I believe bone density problems are an issue in males with low testosterone (eg klinefelters).

neilyoungismyhero · 08/10/2023 16:55

@willingtolearn I have to say when I fractured my back I couldn't move anything so I was intimately washed etc. However I don't believe the rest of the article ever happened.

FrancescaContini · 08/10/2023 16:54

ZeldaFighter · 08/10/2023 16:35

How does an adult male human grow or get labia and a clitoris? If the penis is inverted to make a cavity, I get that but where and how do you get lips and a magic bean from??? Your arm???

You can’t

FrancescaContini · 08/10/2023 16:53

Bonkersworknonsense · 08/10/2023 16:06

“We started chatting and at one point I said: “If you took every woman in this ward, stuck us all into stirrups and asked a gynae to take a good look, they wouldn’t be able to tell the difference between me and everyone.”

The nurses burst out laughing. “Oh, we know!” one of them exclaimed. “We’ve all been talking about it in the staff room. It looks just like the real thing!”'”
😂😂😂😂😂😂

I wonder if TRA’s actually believe this?

Yeah of course this happened 😂

RealityFan · 08/10/2023 16:51

God, I'm so naive. Didn't even occur to me a fantasist would, er, fantasise.

And get it published.

willingtolearn · 08/10/2023 16:48

@MrTiddlesTheCat I did find that bit particularly implausible.

ColdEvenings · 08/10/2023 16:48

AllProperTeaIsTheft · 08/10/2023 16:07

The nurses burst out laughing. “Oh, we know!” one of them exclaimed. “We’ve all been talking about it in the staff room. It looks just like the real thing!”'

What's that expression I'm searching for... Oh yes - "Cool story bro' " Hmm

And everybody started clapping!

Citrusandginger · 08/10/2023 16:47

Theeyeballsinthesky · 08/10/2023 16:04

I’ll add nurses standing around discussing their labia into the list of things that never happened

so much a case of Advanced General Pratling

Let's be honest. The idea of nurses taking breaks is a fantasy. And trust me we ain't interested in anyone's genitalia. So yes. A Gallumphing Pile of shite.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 08/10/2023 16:45

What @TheirEminence said.

ditalini · 08/10/2023 16:45

This is the same person who, despite being 6ft tall, grew 36B breasts without surgery.

I've no idea what sort of growth is possible on estrogen, but I really doubt a 6ft male will be a 36.

JanesLittleGirl · 08/10/2023 16:45

MrTiddlesTheCat · 08/10/2023 16:43

The bigger story here is that this person had 2 nurses with enough time on their hands to have a cosy little chat with them. I couldn't even find 1 nurse with enough time to fetch me some water.

And that they had a staff room and time to chat in it.

MrTiddlesTheCat · 08/10/2023 16:43

The bigger story here is that this person had 2 nurses with enough time on their hands to have a cosy little chat with them. I couldn't even find 1 nurse with enough time to fetch me some water.

loislovesstewie · 08/10/2023 16:42

I'll tell you what is sad about this; the fact that some young people are going to believe that the results are this good.

Swamphag · 08/10/2023 16:41

Yes. All of these things definitely happened.
Definitely.

TheirEminence · 08/10/2023 16:40

This person spent a long writing career trying to undermine feminist arguments, and their latest project is the performance element of the bigger endeavour.

HermioneWeasley · 08/10/2023 16:37

Of all the things that never happened, that one never happened the most.

honestly, you think they’d be embarrassed writing about their delusional fantasies for the national press.

ditalini · 08/10/2023 16:36

ZeldaFighter · 08/10/2023 16:35

How does an adult male human grow or get labia and a clitoris? If the penis is inverted to make a cavity, I get that but where and how do you get lips and a magic bean from??? Your arm???

Scrotum, and they try to incorporate the head of the penis to maintain some sort of sensation.

Results are variable.

ZeldaFighter · 08/10/2023 16:35

How does an adult male human grow or get labia and a clitoris? If the penis is inverted to make a cavity, I get that but where and how do you get lips and a magic bean from??? Your arm???

BatteryPoweredMammy · 08/10/2023 16:33

We started chatting and at one point I said: “If you took every woman in this ward, stuck us all into stirrups and asked a gynae to take a good look, they wouldn’t be able to tell the difference between me and everyone.”The nurses burst out laughing.
^^
“Oh, we know!” one of them exclaimed. “We’ve all been talking about it in the staff room….

….and asked ourselves ‘why the fuck is he in here with actual biological women?” 🙄

TheHappyCarrot · 08/10/2023 16:32

Stilldigging · 08/10/2023 16:01

I have to question if this person was so clearly female in every way, how did the nurses know they were transgender in the first place, given it is not allowed to be referred to or written down anywhere?

I was thinking the same thing.