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Transwoman on being in a woman's ward

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ArabellaScott · 08/10/2023 15:52

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/trans-nhs-hospital-ward-mixed-tories-women-b2423144.html

''When it came to washing my body or clearing up after me, I was entirely dependent on nurses. They saw, wiped and dried every last inch of me.
A few days before my discharge, two nurses came to my bed, pulled the curtains closed for privacy and asked if I would mind telling them what it was like to be transgender.

We started chatting and at one point I said: “If you took every woman in this ward, stuck us all into stirrups and asked a gynae to take a good look, they wouldn’t be able to tell the difference between me and everyone.”

The nurses burst out laughing. “Oh, we know!” one of them exclaimed. “We’ve all been talking about it in the staff room. It looks just like the real thing!”'

...

'all humans begin their lives as female.'

I’m trans and fractured my spine – why don’t I belong on a women’s ward?

I look like a woman, sound like a woman and live as a woman, writes Diana Thomas. But the Conservatives believe, when in hospital, I don’t deserve the same kindness and compassion as other patients

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/trans-nhs-hospital-ward-mixed-tories-women-b2423144.html

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ditalini · 08/10/2023 17:37

MorvernBlack · 08/10/2023 17:27

Hmm..unlikely to have happened, but people have been so brainwashed, so who knows t.
This person's previous publications are also a worry.

But do us a favour, stop with the 6ft crap, there's nothing unfeminine about being 6ft or taller. Some of us can do without that kind of shade being cast our way.

Yep, but I know 6ft women and they don't look anything like 6ft men.

Brokendaughter · 08/10/2023 17:31

"and then we braided each others hair before skipping through a field of flowers in the sunshine trading friendship bracelets."

Cannotthinkofanametoday · 08/10/2023 17:30

As a retired gynae nurse I can assure you all that I never once discussed anyone’s genitalia in a staff room.

  1. There was no staff room
  2. We were too bl*y busy to stop and chat
  3. When you run an abnormal smear clinic you really have seen it all.
  4. I have seen breastless women, women with reconsructive breasts, women with radical labial surgery for cancer, women with out wombs, ovaries, fallopian tubes etc. BUT I have never seen a woman with a penis.
Americano75 · 08/10/2023 17:30

Naaw, his gender euphoria must have been off the scale!

MorvernBlack · 08/10/2023 17:27

Hmm..unlikely to have happened, but people have been so brainwashed, so who knows t.
This person's previous publications are also a worry.

But do us a favour, stop with the 6ft crap, there's nothing unfeminine about being 6ft or taller. Some of us can do without that kind of shade being cast our way.

VWdieselnightmare · 08/10/2023 17:27

Someone's been watching sexy nurse videos on Pornhub.

WickedSerious · 08/10/2023 17:26

ArabellaScott · 08/10/2023 16:16

'There’s something weird, not to say toe-curlingly ‘eeeewww’, about a man of 60 who looks down and sees the breasts of an adolescent girl sprouting on his chest.
That’s one reason I’ve not written much about my boobs until now. Another would be that, from a female reader’s point of view, being told about what it feels like to grow breasts by a male-to-female transsexual might easily seem like the ultimate, distilled, platonic essence of mansplaining. You really don’t need me to tell you.
And yet the fact remains that my breasts are incredibly important to me.'

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/family/life/like-new-boobs-neat-round-dont-sag/

Yeah,he won't get from male to female if he spends a million.

borntobequiet · 08/10/2023 17:26

Don’t believe a word of it. Unless said in a placating way to someone clearly delusional.

Melroses · 08/10/2023 17:22

Were they laughing hysterically whilst looking for the nearest exit?

TarantinoIsAMisogynist · 08/10/2023 17:22

Fleabane · 08/10/2023 16:00

I can't speak for all women but the idea that a load of nurses would be standing around on their breaks discussing my labia is very weird and disconcerting

It's pretty obvious that the nurses never said this though. It's completely fictional

Because there isn't a nurse on the planet that would mistake a surgically created 'vagina' for one that a woman is born with.

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 08/10/2023 17:22

All I can say to that, is bollocks.

ChishiyaBat · 08/10/2023 17:20

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viques · 08/10/2023 17:18

I read this story and was reminded of those illusion cakes they show in the adverts on GBBO. They look like something else, but in reality they are still cake. Because just as you can’t take butter, sugar, eggs and flour and actually turn them into a bowl of butternut squash soup, you can’t take …………..well, you are all capable of finishing the rest of the sentence for yourselves..

As for taking HRT, doesn’t the R mean replacement, so if you never had the oestrogen in the first place you aren’t replacing it, you are ingesting a substance that is foreign to your body. The self deception in this article is massive, and slightly sad in its desperation to be what they can never be ,and to believe that other people don’t see the mismatch.

Miyagi99 · 08/10/2023 17:17

Stilldigging · 08/10/2023 16:01

I have to question if this person was so clearly female in every way, how did the nurses know they were transgender in the first place, given it is not allowed to be referred to or written down anywhere?

Don’t know where you’ve got this information from but it’s incorrect. A person’s medical history is in their medical record so available to the medical professionals treated them.

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ArabellaScott · 08/10/2023 17:17

The thing is that this article is risible, and obviously, at best, heavily embroidered.

But this narrative is what is being pushed, and accepted, by some.

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WallaceinAnderland · 08/10/2023 17:17

ColdEvenings · 08/10/2023 16:48

And everybody started clapping!

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And then I woke up.

CaramelMac · 08/10/2023 17:17

Was this a dream he had? Women do not speak like that 🤣

Fleabane · 08/10/2023 17:11

It's like the transwoman Shea Coffey who was interviewed on the bbc about the rise in transgender hate crime.

On the left is the picture Coffey sent to the bbc. On the right is a still of a video of Coffey.

Transwoman on being in a woman's ward
Transwoman on being in a woman's ward
WoollyBat · 08/10/2023 17:09

What are the chances they all burst out laughing at the claim a gynae wouldn’t be able to tell the difference and then very quickly agreed with the TW before they got fired.

Also on what planet do nurses declare to a patient that they all sit around discussing that patient’s genitals in the staffroom? Could that not be a smidgen unprofessional/ sackable?

SkinnyMalinkyLankyLegs · 08/10/2023 17:08

If a gynaecologist couldn't tell the difference then I'd be thinking that they'd got their medical degree on the Internet for 500 rupees.

RufustheFactualReindeer · 08/10/2023 17:06

Pardon my ignorance but isnt a transwomans ‘vulva’ in a slightly different place to a womans vulva?

DialSquare · 08/10/2023 17:06

I just can't take anyone who uses fuzzy felts for eyebrows, seriously.

RealityFan · 08/10/2023 17:04

CyberCritical · 08/10/2023 16:59

This journalist may pass in photos as a woman when wearing a polo neck and photoshopped heavily, but no one is going to make me believe that in hospital, without makeup that anyone thought this 6ft tall person was anything other than a Trans Woman

It's like, no matter what filter he uses, the end result is the same filter, the "queasy" one.

namitynamechange · 08/10/2023 17:04

I think as a story it needs more dragons.

But that plus the weird boast about having teenage girl breasts is just so creepy it hurts.

AgnesX · 08/10/2023 17:03

I would like to hope that any gynaecologist worth his/her salt could tell the difference.