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Transwoman on being in a woman's ward

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ArabellaScott · 08/10/2023 15:52

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/trans-nhs-hospital-ward-mixed-tories-women-b2423144.html

''When it came to washing my body or clearing up after me, I was entirely dependent on nurses. They saw, wiped and dried every last inch of me.
A few days before my discharge, two nurses came to my bed, pulled the curtains closed for privacy and asked if I would mind telling them what it was like to be transgender.

We started chatting and at one point I said: “If you took every woman in this ward, stuck us all into stirrups and asked a gynae to take a good look, they wouldn’t be able to tell the difference between me and everyone.”

The nurses burst out laughing. “Oh, we know!” one of them exclaimed. “We’ve all been talking about it in the staff room. It looks just like the real thing!”'

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'all humans begin their lives as female.'

I’m trans and fractured my spine – why don’t I belong on a women’s ward?

I look like a woman, sound like a woman and live as a woman, writes Diana Thomas. But the Conservatives believe, when in hospital, I don’t deserve the same kindness and compassion as other patients

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/trans-nhs-hospital-ward-mixed-tories-women-b2423144.html

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RealityFan · 08/10/2023 19:25

CriticalCondition · 08/10/2023 19:14

Gosh, the batsignal sure has gone off somewhere. I wonder what it is about this kind of article that brings the visitors.

Maybe if someone invaded your home and told you about how fine it was, and there was really nothing to get upset about, you'd understand about the destruction of boundaries.

And the fact we can tell from his previous writings what his attitudes to women are.

And how the MSM are very happy to not only publicise the transgression, and even moreso, to celebrate it.

RufustheFactualReindeer · 08/10/2023 19:24

random 😀 dunno what a dandom is

RufustheFactualReindeer · 08/10/2023 19:23

Oh no some dandom on mumsnet called me a boomer, whatever shall i do 😒

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RufustheFactualReindeer · 08/10/2023 19:21

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Thats a yes then

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RufustheFactualReindeer · 08/10/2023 19:17

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 08/10/2023 19:07

Is this a homophobic reference? I can't make sense of it any other way.

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It does sound that way…

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CriticalCondition · 08/10/2023 19:14

Gosh, the batsignal sure has gone off somewhere. I wonder what it is about this kind of article that brings the visitors.

Worriedmum159 · 08/10/2023 19:12

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What is a bottom? Is it part of this man’s anatomy? I’ve not heard it before, are women bottoms? Does David Thomas talk about this in his articles?

itsmylife7 · 08/10/2023 19:10

ArabellaScott · 08/10/2023 15:52

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/trans-nhs-hospital-ward-mixed-tories-women-b2423144.html

''When it came to washing my body or clearing up after me, I was entirely dependent on nurses. They saw, wiped and dried every last inch of me.
A few days before my discharge, two nurses came to my bed, pulled the curtains closed for privacy and asked if I would mind telling them what it was like to be transgender.

We started chatting and at one point I said: “If you took every woman in this ward, stuck us all into stirrups and asked a gynae to take a good look, they wouldn’t be able to tell the difference between me and everyone.”

The nurses burst out laughing. “Oh, we know!” one of them exclaimed. “We’ve all been talking about it in the staff room. It looks just like the real thing!”'

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'all humans begin their lives as female.'

And then I woke up from my fantasy dream.

PaperWalkAndTalk · 08/10/2023 19:09

It's strange that the most masculine of trans women are obsessed with their neo-vagina being indistinguishable from the real thing, yet seem to forget that the rest of their body is a clear give-away.

The guy is in fantasy land if he believes that he is passable, he just experiences politeness from others.

Also another thing I find strange is that I assume that he is a Tory, but as soon as the party go anyway near trans rights he throws his toys out of the pram. Almost as if they've betrayed him.

vegetation · 08/10/2023 19:09

Silver lining is at least some of the comments on the article are encouragingly critical

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 08/10/2023 19:07

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Is this a homophobic reference? I can't make sense of it any other way.

DogsAkimbo · 08/10/2023 19:06

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Calling women ‘cis women’ on the feminist section of a website primarily for women is inappropriate and insulting. We’re not a subset of women. We are women.

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ArabellaScott · 08/10/2023 19:05

I'd say anyone who read the writer's other material would have a fair idea.

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ArabellaScott · 08/10/2023 19:02

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It's not about 'fitting in'.

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TheOccasionalFag · 08/10/2023 18:57

Just as an aside, unfortunately stirrups are still used sometimes in UK hospitals. I was left in stirrups for so long following an induction that my peroneal nerve was severed and I couldn't walk.

But yes, the rest is just utter fantasy.

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CriticalCondition · 08/10/2023 18:54

PatatiPatatras · 08/10/2023 18:52

Could be a pair of male nurses, who couldn't find a clitoris with a map, a torch and a female anatomically correct mannequin for reference, who are being quoted.

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