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Transwoman on being in a woman's ward

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ArabellaScott · 08/10/2023 15:52

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/trans-nhs-hospital-ward-mixed-tories-women-b2423144.html

''When it came to washing my body or clearing up after me, I was entirely dependent on nurses. They saw, wiped and dried every last inch of me.
A few days before my discharge, two nurses came to my bed, pulled the curtains closed for privacy and asked if I would mind telling them what it was like to be transgender.

We started chatting and at one point I said: “If you took every woman in this ward, stuck us all into stirrups and asked a gynae to take a good look, they wouldn’t be able to tell the difference between me and everyone.”

The nurses burst out laughing. “Oh, we know!” one of them exclaimed. “We’ve all been talking about it in the staff room. It looks just like the real thing!”'

...

'all humans begin their lives as female.'

I’m trans and fractured my spine – why don’t I belong on a women’s ward?

I look like a woman, sound like a woman and live as a woman, writes Diana Thomas. But the Conservatives believe, when in hospital, I don’t deserve the same kindness and compassion as other patients

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/trans-nhs-hospital-ward-mixed-tories-women-b2423144.html

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PriOn1 · 08/10/2023 16:06

Who sits round boasting to the nurses about their genitals (or lack of)? And how many nurses would respond by saying they’d been discussing said genitals (or lack of)?

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willingtolearn · 08/10/2023 16:05

I don't believe it. Also unless the patient had no use of their arms at all it would not be normal for the carer who washed them (rarely a registered nurse) to 'wash and dry every inch' of a person - independence is maintained for their dignity

It would be an incredibly intrusive thing for a Registered nurse to ask and they are very unlikely to have time for that sort of chit chat anyway.

Theeyeballsinthesky · 08/10/2023 16:04

I’ll add nurses standing around discussing their labia into the list of things that never happened

so much a case of Advanced General Pratling

ArabellaScott · 08/10/2023 16:04

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Duffdee · 08/10/2023 16:03

@FictionalCharacter “FictionalCharacter · Today 15:57

It looks just like the real thing!”'
Isn't that vile transphobia and Literal Violence? We constantly get told that it is the real thing.”

It might be if you said it in a less than kind and supportive way because it would depend entirely upon how the victim or any other person perceived it. I think that’s like the actual law or something. These laws have been in place for a long time and I don’t remember feminists complaining about them when they were passed at the time.

Stilldigging · 08/10/2023 16:01

I have to question if this person was so clearly female in every way, how did the nurses know they were transgender in the first place, given it is not allowed to be referred to or written down anywhere?

Fleabane · 08/10/2023 16:00

I can't speak for all women but the idea that a load of nurses would be standing around on their breaks discussing my labia is very weird and disconcerting

Duffdee · 08/10/2023 15:57

I love this website

Duffdee · 08/10/2023 15:57

Yeah but we’re not here by accident feminist 3.0 was always going to lead to feminism 4.0. And if we can’t have feminism 4.0 we won’t have feminism 3.0 either. Eat what you ordered I guess. Remember, equality is for everyone.

FictionalCharacter · 08/10/2023 15:57

It looks just like the real thing!”'
Isn't that vile transphobia and Literal Violence? We constantly get told that it is the real thing.

ArabellaScott · 08/10/2023 15:54

Previously, the author wrote this:

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/6544051-not-guilty

Not Guilty: In Defence Of Modern Man

'A rebuttal of feminist charges against men discusses such issues as child sexual abuse, the sexual harassment of males, husband battering, and the presupposition of men's guilt.'

Not Guilty: In Defence Of Modern Man

A rebuttal of feminist charges against men discusses su…

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/6544051-not-guilty

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