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Eddie Izzard interview with Salon

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ArabellaScott · 04/10/2023 14:18

I've not watched the whole thing, but just landed on:

'we know that, that, in the fetus, everyone's a girl in the fetus'

“I will punch back”: Eddie Izzard responds to transphobia and talks US comedy tour | Salon Talks

Actor and stand-up comedian Eddie Izzard shares why she started going by the name Suzy, in addition to being called Eddie, and looks back on her comedy caree...

https://youtu.be/Ia06hoeshuY?si=1pjPf8-VbRDcSZY8&t=888

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OccultGnuNew · 05/10/2023 07:05

AutumnCrow · 04/10/2023 15:06

I imagine witnessing Eddie at a hustings would be like watching a drunk Kenneth Branagh rehearsing for the part of Nero in a terribly avant garde production, constantly forgetting his lines.

I am saddened to report I would pay good money to see this. I thought I was a better person.

Is there any chance he's circled round and started parodying himself?

Tabasco007 · 05/10/2023 07:01

MariePaperRoses · 04/10/2023 19:51

Eddie Izzard adjusting his cock in public whilst waiting in the queue for the ladies toilet -

It if been in that queue I would most definitely politely asked what he thought he was going there and why he thought it was OK to break down women's boundary's- I just to really like him for his alternative comedy, way of people a man, now I can't bare to look at him. Total selfish wanker

TheBushOfYourGarden · 05/10/2023 06:10

In the foetus?!

PriOn1 · 05/10/2023 05:20

Do you literally start losing brain cells when you transition or adhere to the gender woo nonsense?

From what some ex-wives have described, particularly those of late-transitioning males, it does sound like “transitioning” can very quickly resemble an addiction, with no consideration of the consequences to others, including the man’s own children. Some of them describe the “coming out” occurring right before important events in their children’s lives, such as sitting important exams, and there are often reports of men spending excessive amounts of money on their new clothes and accessories, again to the detriment of their children.

Eddie does seem to be on a very odd trajectory, with incredibly poor insight into how his actions might affect others and indeed, himself.

OvaHere · 05/10/2023 01:45

HootyMcBooby76 · 05/10/2023 01:42

Do you literally start losing brain cells when you transition or adhere to the gender woo nonsense?
The old "every embryo is female" is based on science that is over a hundred years old. Sex is determined at the moment of conception.

People seem to think that Eddie Izzard is intelligent because he spouts a lot of grandiose nonsense in interviews (a bit like Russell Brand), when really, he has proved time and time again in the last year or two that he is as dumb as a box of rocks.

Even if it WERE true, what does it prove? Is it just another way of saying that men who say they are women actually really ARE women because at one point they were as female as an actual female, or something equally as fucking stupid.

He's a total twat.

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If it was true it would mean every man on the planet was really a woman. If that's the line Eddie is taking then he's not just claiming it for himself is he? He's claiming on behalf of every man who was once a foetus. Which is all of them. 😂

HootyMcBooby76 · 05/10/2023 01:42

Do you literally start losing brain cells when you transition or adhere to the gender woo nonsense?
The old "every embryo is female" is based on science that is over a hundred years old. Sex is determined at the moment of conception.

People seem to think that Eddie Izzard is intelligent because he spouts a lot of grandiose nonsense in interviews (a bit like Russell Brand), when really, he has proved time and time again in the last year or two that he is as dumb as a box of rocks.

Even if it WERE true, what does it prove? Is it just another way of saying that men who say they are women actually really ARE women because at one point they were as female as an actual female, or something equally as fucking stupid.

He's a total twat.

RealityFan · 04/10/2023 22:55

MassiveWordSalad · 04/10/2023 22:42

I know @PriOn1!

Who the fuck 'assigns' the foetus? God? It's like the enlightenment never happened to be honest.

And Izzard has the brass balls to call Brexit voters dumbasses and uninformed.

Pot. Kettle. Black.

Of course, no matter how unhinged this all is, we all cheer...# let them speak.

LeSlogo · 04/10/2023 22:55

Incoherent, jumping from topic to topic.
He's a bit embarrassing
Please God no to him running in Brighton

spookehtooth · 04/10/2023 22:49

MariePaperRoses · 04/10/2023 19:51

Eddie Izzard adjusting his cock in public whilst waiting in the queue for the ladies toilet -

Rubiales, is that you? I meant the photo, I thought it'd show in the quote

MassiveWordSalad · 04/10/2023 22:42

I know @PriOn1!

Who the fuck 'assigns' the foetus? God? It's like the enlightenment never happened to be honest.

FinneganFois · 04/10/2023 22:17

She's a gutsy lass, that Suzy.

She's got balls !

ToastMarmalade · 04/10/2023 22:15

I’m just a bit sick of hearing men telling me what women are.

SunnieShine · 04/10/2023 22:14

He's making a right prat of himself.

Rattatoille · 04/10/2023 22:12

Not sure what Suzy / Eddie is on about, but thought he was quite handsome as a man, and comfortable as a man, also I have absolute respect to any person completing so many marathons back to back a few years ago, I struggle and wheeze trying a 100m "sprint" these marathons were incredible achievement, although I wouldn't have liked to see the state of his feet afterwards!

PriOn1 · 04/10/2023 22:05

MassiveWordSalad · 04/10/2023 20:51

To be fair to Eddie this is what you get when you Google foetal development Confused

The very first hit talks about 'assigned sex' for fuck's sake.

Wait! If the foetus has an assigned sex, then how is it possible that the doctor assigns it at birth as well? You can’t assign things twice.

RedToothBrush · 04/10/2023 21:55

Hey Alexa, please give me a definition of the word 'egosurfing'.

Hoardasurass · 04/10/2023 21:35

Thanks @nauticant and @PriOn1
What a surprise that it's only in the last few years that we have finally started to look at the development of the female reproductive system

agent765 · 04/10/2023 21:26

MariePaperRoses · 04/10/2023 19:51

Eddie Izzard adjusting his cock in public whilst waiting in the queue for the ladies toilet -

I would NOT be waiting in that queue.

If women can have a penis why can't we grow a pair of balls and all walk away until the ladydick has finished (and got the hint)?

Women studiously ignoring the MAN in the queue for the WOMEN'S. They should all leave him to it. If he's too thick-skinned to understand that he's not wanted there despite the dress and makeup, then leaving him to it until he's done actually might sink in.

PriOn1 · 04/10/2023 21:15

Hoardasurass · 04/10/2023 17:14

Would that be because all foetuses develop the same until the Y chromosome kicks in or am I repeating the same nonsense as the "scientists "?

It has only recently been discovered that the formation of ovaries is an active process and is not simply due to the absence of the Y chromosome.

How surprising. They sussed out how female development occurs ages after they discovered how male development occurs and developing into a fully functioning female is not simply due to the absence of maleness. All the eye rolls…

”Ovary
In a fetus with XX chromosomes, the gonads are initially indifferent and remain indifferent longer than in male gonadal development. Both autosomal genes and genes on the X chromosome contribute to ovary formation. Ovary-specific transcription factors induce ovarian differentiation; these include FOXL2 (forkhead transcription factor 2), WNT4 (wingless-type MMTV integration site family member 4), RSPO1 (R-spondin 1), and the beta-catenin pathway.[11] Only recently has the differentiation of the ovary been identified as an active and complex process.[12] It is now understood that the absence of an active SRY gene in a chromosomal male will not result in ovarian differentiation but in variable gonadal dysgenesis.” from

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK557601/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK557601/#

BlessedKali · 04/10/2023 21:01

this is what you get when men who give absolutely ZERO SHITS about women, try to talk about our reproductive mechanisms...
... idiocy, because they had no interest up until about 5 seconds before they realised they could twist the truth to work to their advantage.

BlessedKali · 04/10/2023 20:59

IN THE FETUS. My god. I don't even have words for the absolute stupidity....

MassiveWordSalad · 04/10/2023 20:51

To be fair to Eddie this is what you get when you Google foetal development Confused

The very first hit talks about 'assigned sex' for fuck's sake.

Eddie Izzard interview with Salon
ArabellaScott · 04/10/2023 20:33

I agree, Red. 😂

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RedToothBrush · 04/10/2023 20:20

ArabellaScott · 04/10/2023 20:04

Because threads about Eddie often don't last long.

What because we repost editorials and links to the mass media about how Izzard has a reputation for being incoherent, irrational, anti-science and demonstrating an ego the size of a small planet?

It's pretty incredible if just signposting to a point that's been made repeatedly in the past that has nothing to do with being trans and everything to do with form for spouting utter bollocks and being a total hypocrite.

If it was a niche, unfair or controversial point of view maybe there'd be reason but honestly it's really not.

Carry on as you were.

ArabellaScott · 04/10/2023 20:04

RedToothBrush · 04/10/2023 19:05

Why tiptoe around?

During the referendum managed to upset fellow Remainers with his behaviour.

It was aggressive, intimidating and confrontational. It was ranty and incoherent. It was disrespectful and rude. It was just NASTY.

Many were actively stating they were embarrassed he was on 'their side' and some even expressed the opinion that he made them want to consider voting for Brexit!

That's not even on this subject.

The man has a problem. His behaviour is not normal and it actively upsets others.

Because threads about Eddie often don't last long.

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