Would you vote Tory if Kemi Badenoch was Tory the party leader and the election was tomorrow?

ok, aside from destroying women’s rights, what do you think Labour would DO about these issues? Is there an economic policy in Wikipedia that Rachel Reeves can cut and paste?

This

Because they are horrendous OP

This! 💯

Will I vote Tory? No. Over my dead body!

But well done Kemi 👏

Christ no, I wouldn't vote Tory if they offered me a Billion quid and to be their leader.

Labour won’t do more of the same - they will allow self ID so the word ‘woman’ becomes meaningless. Women’s rights will no longer exist because women will no longer exist as a distinctive group from men. The word woman will also be removed from literature and anyone suggesting a man is not a woman would be liable for arrest for a hate crime. Labour would also make it illegal to do anything other than affirm a child’s belief that they are the opposite sex and give them harmful treatments. We know this because this is exactly what they are doing and what they are voting for NOW.

No, I mean if you keep voting for the same Tory government that have wrecked women's rights and the UK during their 13 years in power, your just going to get more of the same. I think that's what @YokoOnosBigHat was saying. It's not an extreme or bigoted post.

Thankfully most people have already worked it out. More will work it out between now and the next GE.

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You mean like voting for Labour and expecting them not to destroy women’s rights?

Not if your working on Einstein's definition "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results."

No, she as much a right winger with a lack of sense and empathy who would destroy this country as much as the next Tory.

Fuck, no. But then I’d rather gnaw my own right arm off than vote Tory. And especially for the right-wing nut end of the party

It's not April 1st. Are you feeling OK OP? The answer is "of course not".

No

Do you not think that's a somewhat extreme, in fact bigoted, statement?

Fuck no. And I worry about the sanity of anyone who would.

Yes. Wish you’d put it in AIBU then we could see the voting results

Yes.

How does that take the argument any further? The point is that binding commitments in international law is a signal beyond its domestic concerns.

Of course, were the U.K. to withdraw, then that is the signal it would send. That it are not concerned with a legal commitment of international law.

But one of the problems after WW2 was that what had happened in Germany was lawful by their own domestic laws, written by nazi lawyers. And so the recognition was it needed to bind a country.

But if Germany was signed up before WW2, they could simply have withdrawn. It is not as if all their actions in starting and fighting the war complied with international agreements they signed up to.

@Rudderneck - if we accept that, the ECHR loses its purpose. The genesis was clearly to set an international standard.

For human rights, that was because of what happened in Europe.

I hope no one is childish enough to go all Godwin's law on this. But one of the problems after WW2 was that what had happened in Germany was lawful by their own domestic laws, written by nazi lawyers. And so the recognition was it needed to bind a country.

I am always leery of the case for British decency and moral exceptionalism. It's easy for us to say this because largely, we did not face the tyranny others in Europe did.

But you need not look very far, to some of the Channel Islands were European Jews were taken and worked to death during the war. The local population was like any other country. They were frightened and did nothing.

It does look suspiciously like Corbyn was trying to rename "Holocaust Memorial Day" to something that attacked Israel.

That's fucked up.

Is the "never again for anyone" a coded attack on Israel here?

https://www.timesofisrael.com/corbyn-called-for-uks-holocaust-memorial-day-to-be-renamed/amp/

Jeremy Corbyn, the leader of the British Labour Party, which is embroiled in a series of anti-Semitism scandals, in the past supported a parliamentary motion to rename the country’s Holocaust Memorial Day.

In 2011, Corbyn was among a group of predominantly Labour politicians who proposed changing the name to “Genocide Memorial Day – Never Again For Anyone,”...

Corbyn is know to have supported several Holocaust deniers. He campaigned to get Holocaust Memorial Day changed to Genocide Memorial Day in 2010. He hosted an event at the House of Commons, also in 2010, entitled 'The Misuse of the Holocaust for Political Purposes' (where a speaker compared Israel to Nazi Germany). Corbyn was a member for years of a secret Facebook group, Palestine Live, which included links to Holocaust denial myths, allegations of Israel’s involvement in the 9/11 and 7/7 terror attacks and the training of Islamic State fighters, and conspiracy theories involving the Rothschild family. He attended meetings of a group called Deir Yassin Remembered, founded by Holocaust denier Paul Eisen, who he also funded. He met met Raed Salah, a cleric convicted of racist incitement involving the medieval blood libel that Jewish people use the blood of children to make bread.

There you go - that took me 2 mins to find with a quick google search.

But apparently you can find no evidence of Corbyn ever having been antisemitic.

And that's not mentioning the more famous examples, such as the notorious mural, the wreath or the 'British irony'. I could go on and on. But as I said, the only real reason you see none of these is because you are wilfully blind.

These are the people on Corbyn's side: UK left activists attended events with far right antisemites | Antisemitism | The Guardian