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Would you vote Tory if Kemi Badenoch was Tory the party leader and the election was tomorrow?

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lechiffre55 · 03/10/2023 13:39

Just curious to see what the answers here might be.
Would you vote Tory if Kemi Badenoch was the Tory party leader and the election was tomorrow?
Feel free to answer any way you like, and I don't care about derailing. The question is quite tongue in cheek, don't take it too seriously, and have fun with it if you want, rant if you want. I'm trying to get a picture of the MN mood.

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RealityFan · 03/10/2023 15:14

lechiffre55 · 03/10/2023 13:39

Just curious to see what the answers here might be.
Would you vote Tory if Kemi Badenoch was the Tory party leader and the election was tomorrow?
Feel free to answer any way you like, and I don't care about derailing. The question is quite tongue in cheek, don't take it too seriously, and have fun with it if you want, rant if you want. I'm trying to get a picture of the MN mood.

I think an interesting Q will be, for another thread, if when Labour are floundering after the GE and are nailing colours to the intersectional mast by bringing in changes that GC women will diametrically be opposed to, and Kemi is the Leader of the Opposition, how will women vote next time around.

Barnowlsandbluebells · 03/10/2023 15:14

Yes

Lonelycrab · 03/10/2023 15:13

No

Fahbeep · 03/10/2023 15:11

No, and I think she has very limited electoral appeal beyond culturally right leaning Tory party members. She is opinionated and abrasive regarding anyone who questions her views, seeing and treating them as imbeciles. That may delight the culture wars faithful, but successful politicians who lead parties to GE victories are ideologically flexible, and bring people with them. I can't see her doing that. She comes off as rigid and brittle, and would break like Truss pushing pet ideological policies that don't engage with Britain's real problems.

missusvontrap · 03/10/2023 15:11

No - I care about other people. It would be as insane as voting for Trump or Putin voting these criminals in again.

skippy67 · 03/10/2023 15:10

Lovethatforyouhun · 03/10/2023 14:10

Yes yes YES. Love her.

Why?

Hurrydash · 03/10/2023 15:10

ResisterRex · 03/10/2023 14:13

Yes. Someone said on another thread better to have given more years of them and not lose our rights, and let the madness wash over Labour. I agree with that. Though given how strongly they are clinging to the disastrous GRA, I doubt they'll let it go after five years. But to steady the ship, it's what we need. It'll take 100 years or more to get back what we will lose. This is what we will lose: www.lostwomensrights.com

This.
I can't stand the Tories but will vote for them at the next GE UNLESS Labour have an epiphany regarding women's rights.
Let's have them make the same commitments as Stephen Barclay did today.
For me this is very much a single issue election.

roarrfeckingroar · 03/10/2023 15:09

Yes

lechiffre55 · 03/10/2023 15:09

DarkDayforMN · 03/10/2023 15:08

I might. I would have to look into her stance on disability a lot more. I don’t know the details but if her preferred policies would fuck over the actual most vulnerable, as I’ve heard said, then, no, I couldn’t vote for her.

But I appreciate that she seems to be willing to go to war with the bureaucrats who have tied the education and health system and indeed the economy in knots. I don’t know if she could actually accomplish any kind of substantive change even if she did get into power, and I don’t know if I’d like the changes even if she did accomplish them - but I think she has identified the right enemies. That’s something, right? (It’s probably nothing at all.)

Good answer thanks.

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DarkDayforMN · 03/10/2023 15:08

I might. I would have to look into her stance on disability a lot more. I don’t know the details but if her preferred policies would fuck over the actual most vulnerable, as I’ve heard said, then, no, I couldn’t vote for her.

But I appreciate that she seems to be willing to go to war with the bureaucrats who have tied the education and health system and indeed the economy in knots. I don’t know if she could actually accomplish any kind of substantive change even if she did get into power, and I don’t know if I’d like the changes even if she did accomplish them - but I think she has identified the right enemies. That’s something, right? (It’s probably nothing at all.)

CyberCritical · 03/10/2023 15:07

No

I vote for my local MP not for the party leader, if the last couple of years have taught us all anything it should be that the party leader can be changed at the drop of a hat.

Also you'd have to threaten me with something pretty horrific to get me to ever vote Tory.

smithsinarazz · 03/10/2023 15:05

Good God, no. Never.

Tinysoxxx · 03/10/2023 15:05

No

ruby1957 · 03/10/2023 15:04

No - not enough experience.

dontbenastyhaveapasty · 03/10/2023 15:02

Zebedee999 · 03/10/2023 14:53

You're clearly too young to remember Labour's illegal war that killed millions and resulted in terrorism in this country killing kids at pop concerts etc. If you deem that to be better than what the tories have done then shame on you.
Personally I'd take someone eating cake when they shouldn't over illegal wars any time... but that is just me I guess. Lots still vote Labour (sadly I voted for them and am therefore partly guilty for the millions of deaths they caused).

It seems you were too young to remember any of the complexity around the Iraq war - not least that the Conservative Party were very enthusiastic about it and would have taken the exact same decision to join the Americans’ lead.

I was one of the many thousands of ordinary people who marched against that war, but the fact it happened is in no way a reason to vote Tory.

Perhaps you were also too young to remember the utterly shit state of public services before Blair won the 1997 election? Or to notice what a massive positive difference things like Sure Start and decent funding of the NHS made to this country?

fearfuloffluff · 03/10/2023 15:00

Zero chance

MissPollysFitDolly · 03/10/2023 14:59

Yes, absolutely. Couldn't vote for Labour, bunch of ridiculous clowns.

romatheroamer · 03/10/2023 14:58

No but wouldn't vote Tory anyway. Although the Major government was obviously unpopular, it's worse now. You've got as ex-PMs, ex and present ministers a mixture of the incompetent, the over-promoted and the downright unpleasant.

beastlyslumber · 03/10/2023 14:55

Yes, I would.

PorcelinaV · 03/10/2023 14:55

GrammarTeacher · 03/10/2023 14:28

Those saying yes, other than her statements around trans people what do you agree with her about exactly.

I haven't said "yes", but I do agree with her position on potentially leaving the European Court of Human Rights.

(I would personally take a stronger position.)

Apparently we had the GRA forced on us because of that institution.

But even ignoring that, there is an obvious problem with court decisions, when you can decide completely opposite things just depending on the individual judge. And of course their personal moral and political values will bias them. That kind of system is very suspect if it has too much power.

Zebedee999 · 03/10/2023 14:53

Weefreetiffany · 03/10/2023 14:03

I wouldn’t vote for the tories ever. They have done the most damage to society and the economy in 11 years than any previous government. Can’t vote for more of the same, in good conscience, could you?

You're clearly too young to remember Labour's illegal war that killed millions and resulted in terrorism in this country killing kids at pop concerts etc. If you deem that to be better than what the tories have done then shame on you.
Personally I'd take someone eating cake when they shouldn't over illegal wars any time... but that is just me I guess. Lots still vote Labour (sadly I voted for them and am therefore partly guilty for the millions of deaths they caused).

Alstro · 03/10/2023 14:53

No. I will never vote Tory.

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Notagains · 03/10/2023 14:50

Definitely not. She is even more rightwing than the current government .

TooBigForMyBoots · 03/10/2023 14:49

No. I like having rights.

caringcarer · 03/10/2023 14:48

Yes, she's a lot more electable than Rishi Snake Sunak. He is beyond rich and has no idea how normal people live with his £720 million wealth.