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Would you vote Tory if Kemi Badenoch was Tory the party leader and the election was tomorrow?

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lechiffre55 · 03/10/2023 13:39

Just curious to see what the answers here might be.
Would you vote Tory if Kemi Badenoch was the Tory party leader and the election was tomorrow?
Feel free to answer any way you like, and I don't care about derailing. The question is quite tongue in cheek, don't take it too seriously, and have fun with it if you want, rant if you want. I'm trying to get a picture of the MN mood.

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MadderthanMorris · 03/10/2023 16:08

No.

Gender ideology is bad, but fascism is worse.

enchantedsquirrelwood · 03/10/2023 16:05

GrammarTeacher · 03/10/2023 13:56

Hell no. Look at her voting record in general. It's not one supportive of women's rights. Even if I agreed with her on trans issues (I don't), her voting record on welfare issues and human rights would have me running for the hills. She is not the friend of any type of feminist.

This. She is going on about the EHCR and like other moronic Tories seems to have wilfully forgotten that we cannot leave the EHCR due to the Good Friday agreement.

bemorelemmy · 03/10/2023 16:03

yes

CheshireCat1 · 03/10/2023 16:03

Definitely not.

nzborn · 03/10/2023 16:03

Yes

RicePuddingLady · 03/10/2023 16:00

I agree with her gender critical views and I admire the way she has stood her ground on this issue, but I disagree with almost everything else she stands for.

She’s dreadful on race…and she’s a Tory.

Not a chance.

Weefreetiffany · 03/10/2023 15:59

Zebedee999 · 03/10/2023 14:53

You're clearly too young to remember Labour's illegal war that killed millions and resulted in terrorism in this country killing kids at pop concerts etc. If you deem that to be better than what the tories have done then shame on you.
Personally I'd take someone eating cake when they shouldn't over illegal wars any time... but that is just me I guess. Lots still vote Labour (sadly I voted for them and am therefore partly guilty for the millions of deaths they caused).

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Yes I marched against that war, I’m too young to remember the first Iraq war though, thatcher and major bumming Reagan and bush and them trying to secure the oil the first time round, killing Libyans , Egyptians and Kuwaitis. But don’t let history stop your propaganda-fed bias. Let me guess, daily mail reader? Go check how many of your beloved tories voted to join that war and did so with bells on the contracts for their war-machine mates. And what have the tories done lately? How many dying of fuel poverty and cost of living crisis and austerity measures? Or can’t you see us from up on your high horse? the rose-tinted glasses certainly aren’t helping you. Eating cake when they shouldn’t? Try carving up the nhs for profit and killing the elderly in care homes with their covid “policies.” Shame on you for living in your glamourised hate filled version of the past and refusing to see the immediate horror of the present.

BlessedKali · 03/10/2023 15:59

YES YES YES YES YES YES

RavingStone · 03/10/2023 15:58

No. I admire Kemi and appreciate what she's doing for women's rights.

I don't think all Tories are bastards or whatever. I'm utterly sick of Labour's cowardice and the appalling attitude of some of its MPs and supporters.

But I do not agree with Conservatives economically or on general "how people tick" or "how to treat members of a society fairly" issues.

I'm not convinced party politics is working tbh. I'd prefer cross party cooperation on stuff like women's rights, NHS and climate.

GrammarTeacher · 03/10/2023 15:57

I wouldn't focus on what they say but on their voting record. The benefit cuts and underfunding of health and education are much more damaging to women than the GRA has been or will be. They (including Badenoch) don't want equality for women in any sense. They may 'know what a woman is' but they also want us kept down in general and have no interest in any other aspect of women's rights issues.

ResisterRex · 03/10/2023 15:40

They do seem to be going for it. Labour can't just say nothing (especially on the first one). You'd assume this will be followed by more such tweets:

x.com/conservatives/status/1709166272225628405?s=46&t=WHoOZ_3Kv5G6-FyQuvE0LQ

"This is a common-sense approach to sex and equality.

While Labour’s Keir Starmer still works out what a woman is, we’re working to ensure their voices are heard in the NHS."

x.com/conservatives/status/1709207218027934071?s=46&t=WHoOZ_3Kv5G6-FyQuvE0LQ

"NEW: Conservatives are safeguarding scientific research from the denial of biology and the steady creep of political correctness.

@ michelledonelan announces plans to depoliticise science at #CPC23"

FizzingAda · 03/10/2023 15:37

I'd cut my hands off before I'd vote Tory.

YokoOnosBigHat · 03/10/2023 15:34

Hahaha. Good one.

EasternStandard · 03/10/2023 15:31

Maybe. I’d have to hear more on a range of issues

I appreciate her push on women’s rights for sure

bombastix · 03/10/2023 15:28

@lechiffre55 - don't be patronising. I'm sure you can read her comments re this treaty in the Times.

duc748 · 03/10/2023 15:28

Seems like the biggest group Mumsnetters fall into is 'Disenfranchised'.

MyLadyDisdainlsYetLiving · 03/10/2023 15:26

No because I could never vote for the Conservatives, whoever is in charge.

blackpear · 03/10/2023 15:21

I would not vote Tory at all. This is the nastiest, most divisive, sinister government I have ever lived under.

Enterthewolves · 03/10/2023 15:20

Fuck no - and honestly if people are voting on this as a single issue I am appalled - women are more likely to be negatively impacted by cuts to welfare benefits, health, education, criminal justice than men but yeah let’s vote for someone who’d make all of that a shit tonne worse

BigMandsTattooPortfolio · 03/10/2023 15:20

No way. 😱

AgnesX · 03/10/2023 15:18

GrammarTeacher · 03/10/2023 13:56

Hell no. Look at her voting record in general. It's not one supportive of women's rights. Even if I agreed with her on trans issues (I don't), her voting record on welfare issues and human rights would have me running for the hills. She is not the friend of any type of feminist.

Agree with this.

Weefreetiffany · 03/10/2023 15:17

A lot of people saying “yes” seem to be justifying it with “better the fascist you know” guess we can than Rupert murdoch for giving them that idea.

I remember how good it was under labour, then Cameron cut all services to within an inch of life under “austerity”. All our hard won rights for workers and women are being systematically reversed and undercut while their donor mates get rich from back room deals. Why would anyone who is dependent on public services and/or has an income of less than 250k a year even consider voting for them? Oh yeah, the mail/express/telegraph told you to.

Verite1 · 03/10/2023 15:17

No. Absolutely not.

lifeturnsonadime · 03/10/2023 15:17

missusvontrap · 03/10/2023 15:11

No - I care about other people. It would be as insane as voting for Trump or Putin voting these criminals in again.

This is just silly.

No matter what you think of the Tories comparing them to Putin is offensive.

Mustardseed86 · 03/10/2023 15:16

No. I quite like her, but no. The Tories need to go, they're destroying this country bit by bit. I don't know how much better Labour will be, but I will definitely be voting for them in the next election and hoping things may start to get better. I'm not a single issue voter, though.