Trans women to be banned from female hospital wards

This is why its going to take more than clarification of policy to make single sex wards actually single sex.

Gender ideology has been accepted uncritically into every part of the NHS. The government will have to make sure that every arms length body, every union and every manager understands the law as it is, not how they want it to be.

I also noticed the little 'if you try to stop men coming on your wards when you're vulnerable and helpless and ill and possibly subconscious, and you won't be nicely open minded about being flashed, raped, assaulted, etc, they'll stop single sex wards altogether and then you'll be sorry ' attempt.

Aye. Shut up like a good girl and take what crumbs are tossed your way.

It’s the patriarchy writ large, isn’t it?

Apparently protecting women from rape and exclusion and humiliation harms access to health care for males.

Sorry mate, if your access to health care really is dependent on your having control over me and your inhindered access to me in a state of vulnerability and distress, then as far as I'm concerned you can either get over yourself or you can self exclude like you're delighted for me to do. This is sociopathic.

Men can access healthcare without being provided with women's bodies. Men will not die from being prevented from using and abusing non consenting women.

And the absolute FARCE of all the wailing about oh TQ+ male people might not want to go to health care (if they can't have free access to non consenting partially dressed women to use as wanted) -

no one has given a TOSS about the distress of women, or the exclusion of women, or the women forced to self exclude, some of whom have been raped by these men having their little needs met . Their access to health care has been of zero concern to anyone through all this.

This is not 'fostering good relations' between groups, this is driving me absolutely around the bend at the sheer tone deaf misogyny that thinks the only humans that matter are males with TQ+ identities, and that women are just walking appliances for their use.

I also noticed the little 'if you try to stop men coming on your wards when you're vulnerable and helpless and ill and possibly subconscious, and you won't be nicely open minded about being flashed, raped, assaulted, etc, they'll stop single sex wards altogether and then you'll be sorry ' attempt.

Heard it. It's right out of the stable with 'oooh don't rock the boat about equality, they might take your abortion rights' coercion to make women eat up the shit sandwich nicely like good girls so that men can go on doing whatever they want.

GTF. Seriously.

Archived article from the Telegraph, Barclay tells NHS staff to 'stop it with pronouns!'. I'm paraphrasing.

https://archive.ph/eZOPC

The quote at the end from Stonewall, at the moment applies to women. Why don't Stonewall stop trying to change the rest of the world to suit Transpeople and, instead, stop telling them that disagreement is hatred and teach them some resilience.

I'm actually embarrassed that the Government has to deal with such idiotic nonsense that never should have been allowed to become so established.

Stonewall hath spake. The apparent irony that it is "humiliating and dangerous" to the cunty kind of woman to have males on her ward in hospital, seemingly lost on them. Or they don't care. Whichever.

"Whether it’s underfunding on female-specific health issues or simply not having their symptoms taken seriously, women regularly report dissatisfaction with the healthcare they receive in England.

This is a cynical attempt by the Secretary of State to ‘look busy’ instead of getting on with the graft of implementing the Women’s Health Strategy, and, besides being unworkable, all it will achieve is to restrict access to healthcare for trans women, by making it humiliating and dangerous."

x.com/stonewalluk/status/1709163916029260264?s=46&t=WHoOZ_3Kv5G6-FyQuvE0LQ

'people's' health, I note. Presumably they don't see women as people.

These posts need reposting again and again and again.

This is giving me some hope for the first time in many years, but no dancing just yet.

All NHS bodies are stonewalled to the eyeballs

another reason why evicting male colonisers from women’s spaces is so hard

I noticed only a few comments. Most people will feel they can’t speak up.
Privately, they’ll be a lot of agreement (discussed discreetly at work today..).

There aren’t many comments underneath but from the few they’re using bigot etc

How did women become so invisible?

Ah, I'm not.

It’s on Instagram.

Is this posted where it is possible to reply to it?

Apologues - re duplicate scared. Too annoyed to articulate.

NHS workers are too scared to speak up.
it’s very sad and scary.

And honestly - actual women coming on here to say their transwoman friend ‘lives as a woman’…?

It's incredibly frustrating isn't it @GodDammitCecil just shows how many have swallowed the regressive sexist, misogynist stereotypes all based on presentation that equal woman.

The only way to live as a woman is to have been born female and grown through girlhood to a woman. It has fuck all to do with personality traits, appearance, likes or dislikes.

I think I have missed something - why is putting transwomen where they belong i.e on mens' wards deterring them from accessing health care? Except typically blokes tend to neglect their health and only seek treatment when they are forced to.

It’s fine to actively deter women.

Come on, this is what ‘living as a woman’ is actually all about. Continually being thrown under the bus.

Women don’t matter.

And your daily reminder that misogyny is not a hate crime.

<sigh>

That’s really sad. Where do women feature in this?

We’re overlooked, and half the population

And actively deterring women from seeking healthcare RCN, anything to say about that?

The RCN proving again how disappointing they are.

Well you made me laugh at least

You seem worked up about something but who knows what

In the media how would you describe the coverage by The Guardian?

I don't think you understand people very well. You've sort of manufactured an argument that I haven't even made, and are trying to respond with that argument. You're basically talking to yourself at this point.

Not sure why so worked up

In the media how would you describe the coverage by The Guardian?