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I would have asked for blockers and a mastectomy

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h1d1ng1npla1ns1ght · 02/10/2023 04:05

My mum is a feminist, quite vocal, but has been pulled into gender ideology by her workplace. She talks about a lot of pre-pubescent children she knows through work as being trans, being “deadnamed”, but accepts that the science behind transitioning children is “inconvenient”, as in, it points us toward not transitioning children. I was talking to her recently and told her I would have asked for blockers as a child because I had anorexia. When you have anorexia, breasts are just extra fat; flabby, useless, soft, disgusting. I would have loved it if there was medicine to stop them from growing at all, and to have had them removed when they did grow. I’m very gender-conforming. I’ve never been a tomboy or anything. I just hated my body, I hated that it was going to change and I felt powerless. Even without an eating disorder puberty is uncomfortable and scary. If instead of “all I want in the world is to be thin, I’m afraid I will hurt myself if I can’t be that”, I had existed now and said, “all I want in the world is to be a boy, I’m afraid I will hurt myself if I can’t be that” do you think people could have seen past it or would I have been taken seriously? I really did hate my female body, just not for the same reason.
I’m rambling, I’m sorry. I have two young daughters and I’m so scared for them. I’m scared of the capitalist, consumerist, male-centred feminism that is so pervasive in their world right now.

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ArabellaScott · 02/10/2023 07:10

'Transgender and other gender diverse individuals are at increased risk for development of eating disorders due to significant risk factors including stigma, discrimination, and body dissatisfaction 7,8,9,10]. This population may engage in eating disorder behaviors to mitigate or suppress secondary sex characteristics'

Transgender and other gender diverse adolescents with eating disorders requiring medical stabilization - Journal of Eating Disorders

Background Despite the high prevalence of eating disorders in gender diverse adolescents, little is known about the characteristics of gender diverse youth with eating disorders who require inpatient medical stabilization. The primary objective of this...

https://jeatdisord.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s40337-022-00722-7#ref-CR7

WarriorN · 02/10/2023 07:07

Professor Michele Moore has talked and written at length about many examples where clinicians, as soon as the child decided they were trans, proclaimed that that was the reason why they child was anorexic.

One case she talked about involved a child who was in a unit for children with anorexia and several of them had come out as trans. The child had no indication of being trans identifying when they went in.

The clinicians appeared to believe it was the answer to everything.

hylian · 02/10/2023 06:12

LargeSquareRock · 02/10/2023 06:08

I’m not so sure. One of the findings of the interim Cass review was the major concern that once gender issues are raised, it creates a tunnel vision where any comorbid mental health issues are just blasted aside.

Do you have any examples of when a child with anorexia has been given them?

LargeSquareRock · 02/10/2023 06:08

hylian · 02/10/2023 06:02

They wouldn't give you a masectomy or puberty blockers if you had anorexia.

I’m not so sure. One of the findings of the interim Cass review was the major concern that once gender issues are raised, it creates a tunnel vision where any comorbid mental health issues are just blasted aside.

hylian · 02/10/2023 06:02

They wouldn't give you a masectomy or puberty blockers if you had anorexia.

LargeSquareRock · 02/10/2023 04:18

I would have transitioned if I could have done so. I was a 6ft tall ungainly short haired 12 year old who wanted to be a boy. I didn’t understand girl rules and sort of looked down on girls and their interests and lives.

Another point that gets overlooked is that having the power to socially transition at school against the wishes of authoritarian parents must be thrilling for many girls. It would have been for me- To have the establishment against my parents who I couldn’t stand up to myself- how wonderful that would have been!

So glad I grew up in the 80s and 90s and it wasn’t an option. I would never have been allowed to medically transition- my mum was a tomboy and I don’t ever believe I have seen her in a dress. She would have seen straight through the bullshit. I might have socially transitioned with school backing and that would have been harmful enough. When I was 14/15 everything clicked back into place and now I am a perfectly happy middle-aged mother of 3. Socially transitioning would have been a disaster- how would I have ever been able to backtrack?