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IncomingTraffic · 01/10/2023 19:34

Maybe Lavery feels there should be an affirmation-only peer review process for transactivist work?

YetAnotherSpartacus · 01/10/2023 19:32

Can they give examples of TRA academics being sacked for their perspectives, running the gauntlet of student protests and having journals retract previously published pieces due to protests that they may hurt people? You know, verifiable events?

AutumnCrow · 01/10/2023 19:31

I think is about (a) legal cases, and (b) peer review.

Circumferences · 01/10/2023 19:29

ArabellaScott · 01/10/2023 19:21

'the belief that one is a woman is delusional no matter what one’s chromosomes or gamete motility might indicate'

Half the world's population roll their womanly eyeballs.

https://twitter.com/graceelavery/status/1708541334439498016

Blimey- on that thread "I've never found out what AGP actually is" 😂
Oh, ok then, we'll definitely listen to you on that subject then won't we!

Froodwithatowel · 01/10/2023 19:28

Ah. So a desire to absolutely be entitled to control and punish others into using only language and mentioning matters they approve of, but highly distressed to have their own expression presented with boundaries.

Reciprocation. And equality, rather than a hierarchy of people with different entitlements. It's an ongoing issue isn't it?

Circumferences · 01/10/2023 19:27

DARVO is core mantra gender ideologists rely on in order to carry on doing what they do. I mean, you do see it all the time bit it's always a surprise whenever you see it!

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ArabellaScott · 01/10/2023 19:21

'the belief that one is a woman is delusional no matter what one’s chromosomes or gamete motility might indicate'

Half the world's population roll their womanly eyeballs.

https://twitter.com/graceelavery/status/1708541334439498016

https://twitter.com/graceelavery/status/1708541334439498016

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ladeluge · 01/10/2023 19:17

And I always thought it was the other way around. That GC were cancelled.

ArabellaScott · 01/10/2023 19:16

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IncomingTraffic · 01/10/2023 19:15

ArabellaScott · 01/10/2023 19:13

Article ends on a positive note, however:

'For Lavery, the issue is fundamentally one of academic freedom. “It’s pretty difficult to actually publish work that engages the gender critical movement on any level whatsoever,” she said. “They have almost a monopoly within academic philosophy'

This is the bit where my guess is that what’s really happening is that she’s encountering issues in peer review. Pesky reviewers are probably asking for coherent arguments grounded in accurate assessments of the evidence and other inconvenient things.

So Lavery has decided to spin that to ‘awful GC academics are cancelling me’.

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ArabellaScott · 01/10/2023 19:13

Article ends on a positive note, however:

'For Lavery, the issue is fundamentally one of academic freedom. “It’s pretty difficult to actually publish work that engages the gender critical movement on any level whatsoever,” she said. “They have almost a monopoly within academic philosophy'

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IncomingTraffic · 01/10/2023 19:11

ArabellaScott · 01/10/2023 19:08

'Christa Peterson ... these people keep saying my academic work is bullying and harassment,” she said'

Has anyone told her that tweeting is not her ‘academic work’?

RedToothBrush · 01/10/2023 19:10

"I'm spouting illiterate non scientific and socially backward and tone deaf bollocks and wonder why the serious grown ups give me a wide birth."

Yep ok.

FarEast · 01/10/2023 19:09

My considered professorial response:

Diddums.

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ArabellaScott · 01/10/2023 19:09

'Lavery understood editors feared they could face legal action for running the piece'

Academic trips over the existence of 'defamation', shocker.

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Buffypaws · 01/10/2023 19:08

Ooh boo hoo

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ArabellaScott · 01/10/2023 19:08

'Christa Peterson ... these people keep saying my academic work is bullying and harassment,” she said'

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ArabellaScott · 01/10/2023 19:07

'some academics working on violence against women give me a wide berth'

That's not really 'cancellation', is it, that's just people avoiding you.

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Californiabound · 01/10/2023 19:06

The word diddums comes to mind. Deluded idiots.

IncomingTraffic · 01/10/2023 19:05

Do you think lavery has been struggling to get things through peer review because gaping holes in arguments are being picked up by reviewers?

Thats not a conspiracy or cancellation. That’s what peer review is for.

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ArabellaScott · 01/10/2023 19:05

'Oseroff-Spicer [who had accused Stock of “publicly advocating bigotry and intolerance”had been an editor for the APA blog as a side-job during his studies. “I was then told [by my boss] I couldn’t speak out in support of trans people or criticise her publicly,” he said, adding his boss also instructed him to apologise publicly to Stock.'

https://twitter.com/graceelavery/status/1450810650792431619

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RudsyFarmer · 01/10/2023 19:04

The victim narrative. DARVO?

turbonerd · 01/10/2023 19:04

Jaysus, Ms Phipps does not compute why people working with violence on women don’t want to talk to her?
She’s not very - perceptive, is she?

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ArabellaScott · 01/10/2023 19:03

Grace Lavery, author of 'Please, Miss, A heartbreaking work of staggering penis':

'Grace Lavery, a professor of English at the University of California, Berkeley, gave a talk in 2022 at University College London (UCL) about what [she] called “the mortal threat to academic freedom in the United Kingdom that has been mounted in recent years… by an alliance composed of the gender critical movement and the managerial class of administrators that govern the UK [higher education] sector.”'

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turbonerd · 01/10/2023 19:02

So, in short, they are not happy that their libellous claims are being called out.
And they don’t like to be held account for their wildly inaccurate statements.

[nods wisely like a sage]

Well, if that’s cancellation then bring it on!