Let Women Speak Liverpool - Sunday 8th October, 1-3pm

I read TRA on Twitter claiming that Posie had only a handful of supporters "bussed in" and that they (the TRA) "won".

That's not what I saw on the video!

I hear your anguish. I'm afraid you have to view it like a divorce or bereavement or irrevocable breakdown in a friendship.

Other than Rosie Duffield and likely a hardcore of Labour MPs and activists who just cannot "come out", Labour is a done deal.

They'll see just how hard it is in power to walk this artificial line. Starmer's woman problem hadn't even started yet.

Sorry if I am coming over as being overly negative, but I am having one of my user name days.

IwantToRetire from all this madness, and just be able to support a local women's group offereing services, or a worthwhile campaign, with out having to check if they are really by and about women.

How many thousands of negative hours have we all had to spend when we could have been doing something pro-active and positive.

Its so clear that the whole TRA madness is an absolute boon to the MRAs who are just loving having a "legitimate" reason to jeer at and disrespect women. And applauded for doing so in public.

If I believed in some all seeing wonderful goddess I would be saying, please make it stop.

Lost all hope there. I jokingly said to one woman, I don't expect we'll be getting a visit from Angela Rayner anytime soon.

I've been mulling over why I was left feeling so dejected.

And realised that one reason is that had it been any other group of women holding a demo, sorry "gathering", about a women's issue, women inside the Labour Party Conference would be sending messages of solidarity if not actually joining it.

But obviously that wasn't / isn't going to happen with it being LWS / KJK.

Not just because all those Labour women who mumble the agreed line, but because Labour Women's Declaration, who are also gender critical, wont speak up about women being harangued so that their voices are drowned out, because of who the messenger is.

I think I had thought, without thinking it through obviously, that with this event so close to the Confence it might be a light bulb moment for some.

But suspect both the official party line and LWD will be not acknowledge it as ever having happened.

I watched the beginning on YouTube earlier, and was pleased to see that the sound was just fine; I couldn't hear much of the earlier stuff live. But my hearing is rubbish. Anyway, I'll watch it properly tomorrow. I was just amazed how Ronseal it was. Let women speak: indeed.

Go for it!

Oh - there's a challenge.

I'm 7 or 8 people all by myself!

Go for it!

I know someone who has a gorgeous purple and green dye, done in layers so one colour completely covers the other until she moves her head or puts her hair up. I'd love to do similar, but it does require dead straight hair - which mine is definitely not.

The men who seemed to be delegates, who were bellowing abuse at a women’s meeting, are paid by union or constituency members to represent them at Conference.

Those members are surely entitled to know that their representatives were calling women c**nts and fascists in public. And the Labour Party should have a zero-tolerance approach to misogyny and discipline them.

With those points in mind, photos and videos should be sent to the Labour Party. Many of those abusive men are clearly identifiable. Though what they’re yelling isn’t necessarily audible on the videos, it's clear that they're shouting down women and there are witnesses who can attest to the content of their vitriol.

An adaptation of the much more common slogan "a girl without a dick is like an angel without wings".

my kids are always going on about the "blue haired weirdos" it's a definite stereotype nowadays

Just one of the many things that I hate about this lot.

I always thought as I got older I would have fun changing my hair to unlikely colours, but now that that has been colonised by TRAs I feel I cant.

The inner punk that I never was brave enough to be at the time, is just a tiny bit cross.

Or maybe I should try for a sophisticated set of green, white and purple stripes.

But still we rise

I have to say that having eventually got the link to listen I ended up being quite depressed.

I thought the way women kept on speaking despite the ongoing chanting was fantastic, and that a number of women made the point about the protestors being inadequate white middles class twats who I suspect honestly couldn't care whether any of it made sense. It was just another day out of male bonding and attempting to aggrandise it as being politically cutting edge.

But it was so obviously from their mysoginistic incel behaviour that you could have a woman tearing her heart out with some true life story and they just wouldn't care. All this is about is legitimising menintimidating women (well trying to and not suceeding).

Maybe in the days to come some who haven't reallly been aware of this and will see the optics, but I suspect this will not get much public response.

Not in anyway thinking KJK should stop putting on LWS, but so long as there is an endless supply of self righteous antifas, who the "grown ups" (ie the Labour Party) dont challenge, it will just be a never ending ritual.

These events allow they to be publicly woman hating.

Lots of conference attendees in suits walked by the gathering. One man ( mid thirties) was very disapproving of the assembled crowd and declared " What a mess !". It is not a mess, I said, " It's democracy"

Every attendee at conference seems to have their own specific agenda or pet hobby horse. On the bridge that leads to the conference centre there were lots of Labour actvists handing out flyers promoting proportional representation, for example; I overheard others talking about corporate profits as they walked to the hall.

Posie made the point, if it could be heard by the mob, that Kier Stramer had turned his back on the working classes and they should be more up in arms about that......

Yes, and what was quite funny is that he was wearing a mask which meant we couldn't see whether he was pretty or not.

I mean I have very little time for the Labour Party or anyone in it but surely all those people could have been having discussions in the conference centre even slightly more productive that standing outside shouting abuse at women?

I'm not sure any of their signs that aren't death threats are original!

These boring, overprivileged kids have never done anything original in their lives.

Most were fine and friendly to be honest. There were one or two who were very antagonistic, though...which was quite upsetting. It feels quite scary if you feel the police are against you too. It was an exhausting few hours, but all of the attendees seemed determined, and able, to keep a level of detachment and perspective on the surrounding madness and noise.

I was in the chamber for Sarah's speech, too.😀

@Boiledbeetle everyone should have a pussy

Great Pictures @RebelliousCow

I've seen myself, but happy for them to stay. I was less happy to show my face my at Birmingham LWS but now I just think, fuck it!

I tried to get a photo of a sign written in a pizza box - complete with grease blobs - which caught my add. Points for recycling, though, I suppose!

Likewise, "Communicate and Educate" is pretty rich coming from people who come with klaxons and jeering and loud-hailers, attempting to make sure that nobody (including themselves of course) can hear at all. It's almost like nobody's really thought this through!

I mean for a start will someone tell her that Angels aren't real. Then we can maybe address the boys and pussy situation!

I'm not sure any of their signs that aren't death threats are original!

@Boiledbeetle that placard isn't even original. It's, at best, a riff on which went something like, 'if God hates gays, why am I so cute?' I think it was used at demonstrations against Westboro Baptist Church.