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Let Women Speak Liverpool - Sunday 8th October, 1-3pm

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starfruittree · 28/09/2023 23:13

NC for this.
For a long time I have always said to myself if a LWS event came near to me, the least I could do was go along and show solidarity. Seeing what has happened elsewhere has made me so angry, it would be time to stand up and be counted.

Now there is an event next week, and I'm really surprised how nervous, even scared I am about going along just to listen, and really just wanted to reach out for advice, support, whatever.

I'm worried about the vitriol of protesters, the attitude of the police. I have worked in pretty 'captured' sectors and am concerned about being identified on social media, or by acquaintances - I'm fairly sure there'll be old contacts, people I like and who I have had time for - protesting or certainly vocally supporting the shutting down of KJK on the day. I guess I personally run the risk of being publicly 'outed' and losing friends and contacts that will have a real impact on things I do that mean a great deal to me.

Yet I feel if I don't go I will always regret not standing up and showing KJK support on my doorstep. I'm even worried about DM-ing the local Women's Rights Network as I tweet with my full name. Perhaps if anyone is on this board they can PM here, or give some info about plans for the day?

Sorry I haven't seen any threads about this LWS event so apologies if there is one already.

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IwantToRetire · 03/10/2023 21:36

It's 5 years since KJKs first billboard with the woman definition on it and it was outside the Labour conference in Liverpool (2018). This will be one hell of a return.

Of course! I hadn't quite made the connection.

I am sure all will go well. And think even the most self absorbed TRAs will know the msm and police will be around in big numbers and wont want to give the wrong impression.

Although of course what they think is the right impression is a whole other thing.

Really hoping the live stream goes okay.

And worth remembering if the crowd is big and the speakers not powerful enough you can listen via the livestream to what is being said.

FemaleAndLearning · 03/10/2023 21:22

I'm going with my friend. I've been to lots of LWS events. Even the really badly policed ones I've been glad I've gone. When the boys throw their rattles out and have their tantrums and the transmaids are down on their knees it makes you realise you are doing the right thing.

The women are always welcoming, surprisingly it's quite easy to spot a Terf so you won't be alone. Come incognito if you need to, don't wear anything obvious until you are with the women and LWS crowd. Tell the woman next to you that you are anxious and you are a first timer and you will be well looked after.

It's 5 years since KJKs first billboard with the woman definition on it and it was outside the Labour conference in Liverpool (2018). This will be one hell of a return. I'm still deciding on words for a banner. I always make mine women focused shows the toddlers up who have banners all about us!

mrswarthog · 03/10/2023 21:17

Actually, it's on the left unless you're looking from the river 🫣 - it's still 5 minutes from #LWS

mrswarthog · 03/10/2023 21:15

Hi all, it's just outside where the conference is being held. ACC is at the far right corner of the dock, the LWS event is at the entrance, about 5minutes away.
I'll be there, like most PP, I'm apprehensive, as I work in a captured place. I did attend the WPUK event in September 2018 and was utterly emboldened so am hoping for the same!

VeronicaSawyer89 · 03/10/2023 20:35

Do we have a location yet? Just found out I'm not having DGD on Sunday so I can come. Yay! And dd2 wants to come with me.

IwantToRetire · 02/10/2023 16:35

I know it wont happen, but really like the idea of LWS being held opposite the entrance to the Labour Party conference so that all those who have been schooled to say (even if they dont think it) twaw can actually hear and hopefull listen to women's voices unfiltered by the virtue signalling left.

Moomoola · 02/10/2023 05:21

This is on at the world transformed thing as well.

https://theworldtransformed.org/twt23/programme/towards-liberation-beyond-trans-rights/

Trans people are having to fight for basic rights and safety in an increasingly hostile climate, often with fatal consequences. “Trans rights are human rights” is a common refrain - but this framework can sometimes confuse our battles for survival with the broader political project of liberation. What are trans people facing in 2023? How are we resisting state and street violence? And how do we build towards not only trans rights, but trans liberation?

clever use of language there.

one of the speakers works for https://theworldtransformed.org/

*Trans Safety Network is a research collective exploring and analysing institutional and organised harm against trans people in the UK.
We formed in October 2020 and bring together the skills of data scientists, community activists, journalists, analysts and more.
*
Going to be interesting day

TWT23 // Towards Liberation: Beyond Trans Rights

https://theworldtransformed.org/twt23/programme/towards-liberation-beyond-trans-rights/

FarEast · 01/10/2023 12:43

Are you a member of the Women's Rights Network @starfruittree ? I'm sure there'll be women from this network at the LWS event next week.

It's a grass roots organisation, that has local meeting groups - it's quite loose knit. It offers fabulous solidarity & support. And it's just ordinary women, doing extraordinary things.

You can join via Twitter, or their website.

https://www.womensrights.network/

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LarkLane · 01/10/2023 12:07

Thigh High and Puppy? The names say it all.
Emma Goldman must be turning in her grave.

Transform Politics/Labour is Dead is India Willoughby's chosen camp.

Not sure where the People's Front of Judea are meeting.

starfruittree · 01/10/2023 11:25

Another protest in (presumably) the same area at the same time. It could be a busy day.

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Redshoeblueshoe · 29/09/2023 20:50

I went to the Manchester one. I am not young, but I never felt scared. It was exhilarating. Have a fabulous time.

BaronMunchausen · 29/09/2023 18:58

RebelliousCow · 29/09/2023 16:31

An interview with these educated and erudite freedom fighters:

https://www.anarchistfederation.net/femboys-against-fascism-on-liverpool-anti-immigrant-riots/

Interesting among all that juvenile twaddle that "Thigh- Highs, they/them" sees working class areas as racist. And is aggrieved that maleness is demonised.

RebelliousCow · 29/09/2023 18:49

It will be interesting to see in which location the police suggest the event goes ahead. Hopefully not too far away from the conference hall.

IwantToRetire · 29/09/2023 18:29

I'm assuming that KJK knew all of this and chose the date for that reason?

Probably, but if she didn't wonderful conjunction. As she says "I always win".

Can you imagine how Labour will look it at their doors steps spoilt men are shouting their violence at a group of women speaking up for women's rights.

And better still national tv etc., will be there!

Time to think of good placards or even A4 signs to hang round the kneck that will let the lazy "reporters" from the national media have an easy way of summing up what the LWS is about.

ie not anti trans, but pro women and our sex based rights!

RebelliousCow · 29/09/2023 16:20

Ah, yes. FemBoys against Fascism - I've seen some of their 'non-violent' posters around town. If they do behave badly there wil be a lot of media coverage to capture it due to the conference starting that day. I also take a camera everywhere with me. I'll make it my job to photograph everything.

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starfruittree · 29/09/2023 16:07

Glinner warning of these nice sounding chaps.

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RebelliousCow · 29/09/2023 14:41

Joss Prior working Joss's self up into a right lather about the upcoming event.

RebelliousCow · 29/09/2023 10:01

I imagine the reason the location has not yet been announced is because of co-ordination with the police?

RebelliousCow · 29/09/2023 10:00

Lande · 29/09/2023 09:42

Won't this mean the police will be stretched thinner than usual and maybe not have as many resources to protect women as they might otherwise?

Possibly!

I'd hope that the event may take place near to the conference venue - for maximum attention - and also so that the policing of that event may be more 'conscious'.

Lande · 29/09/2023 09:42

RebelliousCow · 29/09/2023 09:35

Thanks for letting me kniow about that. I'm in Liverpool and wasn't aware.

That date, of course, is the opening day of the Labour party conference in the city. The city will be full of delegates and MPs and media - and 'The World Transformed' event also starts the sae day - so there'll be lots of blue hairs and Owen Jones's around too.

I'm assuming that KJK knew all of this and chose the date for that reason?

What is the location, do you know?

Won't this mean the police will be stretched thinner than usual and maybe not have as many resources to protect women as they might otherwise?

RebelliousCow · 29/09/2023 09:35

Thanks for letting me kniow about that. I'm in Liverpool and wasn't aware.

That date, of course, is the opening day of the Labour party conference in the city. The city will be full of delegates and MPs and media - and 'The World Transformed' event also starts the sae day - so there'll be lots of blue hairs and Owen Jones's around too.

I'm assuming that KJK knew all of this and chose the date for that reason?

What is the location, do you know?

starfruittree · 29/09/2023 00:37

Thanks @IwantToRetire, some good ideas there!

Have asked MNHQ to put the date in the title of the thread.

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