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Let Women Speak Liverpool - Sunday 8th October, 1-3pm

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starfruittree · 28/09/2023 23:13

NC for this.
For a long time I have always said to myself if a LWS event came near to me, the least I could do was go along and show solidarity. Seeing what has happened elsewhere has made me so angry, it would be time to stand up and be counted.

Now there is an event next week, and I'm really surprised how nervous, even scared I am about going along just to listen, and really just wanted to reach out for advice, support, whatever.

I'm worried about the vitriol of protesters, the attitude of the police. I have worked in pretty 'captured' sectors and am concerned about being identified on social media, or by acquaintances - I'm fairly sure there'll be old contacts, people I like and who I have had time for - protesting or certainly vocally supporting the shutting down of KJK on the day. I guess I personally run the risk of being publicly 'outed' and losing friends and contacts that will have a real impact on things I do that mean a great deal to me.

Yet I feel if I don't go I will always regret not standing up and showing KJK support on my doorstep. I'm even worried about DM-ing the local Women's Rights Network as I tweet with my full name. Perhaps if anyone is on this board they can PM here, or give some info about plans for the day?

Sorry I haven't seen any threads about this LWS event so apologies if there is one already.

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ArabellaScott · 08/10/2023 16:46

The 'protestors', the mob, have pre-decided that they are going to shout at 'fascists'.

They have no idea what the women are going to speak about.

They apparently don't think for a second that an event called 'Let Women Speak', might be about ... women speaking.

I always wonder if any of them listen. And I wonder if any of them have a moment, while they are chanting 'fucking terfs shut the fuck up' ...

Baddie GIF by Giphy QA
WallaceinAnderland · 08/10/2023 16:44

If you shout over someone speaking, you can't hear what they are saying.

If you can't hear, you're not listening.

If you're not listening, you don't know what you are trying to drown out.

If you don't know what you are trying to drown out, why are you doing it?

Ignorance. That's why.

RealityFan · 08/10/2023 16:41

ArabellaScott · 08/10/2023 15:00

Threatening men who get off on intimidating women. Here's one with a weapon of some kind.

https://twitter.com/Aja02537920/status/1711011727083516155

This is wild, just wild.
How is this gonna resolve?
It's gone beyond a binary difference of opinion, you're either with me or against me.
It's beyond zero sum game.
It's a genuine battle of ideas.
And now, one side has to win.
It's as simple as that.

Winnading · 08/10/2023 16:41

MishyJDI · 08/10/2023 14:26

Lols and not a cult? Seriously? Its amazing how people get drawn into following her. These are the lyrics from today. Im sure an album will be coming out soon!

Quick, send it to boiled. She knows her stuff, it might make it into vol 2 of womens poems or vol 3, either one.
Or maybe boiled can find five fellas willing to sing it? Maybe become as big and famous as the original.

Oh you meant to post that in a nasty way? Oh well if theres one thing women on here are very good at, it comedy.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 08/10/2023 16:41

Anything aggressive or angry, it apparently shows how they are just violent misogynists,

What? Their own behaviour shows that.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 08/10/2023 16:40

He will have really convinced himself he's standing up against Nazis today. Ironic.

Stupid misogynist prick.

beeswaxinc · 08/10/2023 16:36

Can’t win can they!

Anything aggressive or angry, it apparently shows how they are just violent misogynists, not angry enough for you to be able to complain about then they don’t really believe in their own cause 🙄

Boiledbeetle · 08/10/2023 16:31

starfruittree · 08/10/2023 16:23

I know one of the people in this clip. At least he gets points for not hiding behind a mask because covid is on the rise again doncha know. He is 'be kind' to a degree beyond parody and a performer with a sizeable fan base of TQ nerds. He will have really convinced himself he's standing up against Nazis today. Ironic.

I'd really like to sit down with him and have two videos side by side. The one of him and the one of the woman he was trying to drown out at the time

I'd love to know what he had to say for himself when he heard what he was standing up against today.

Pathetic Arsehole.

WallaceinAnderland · 08/10/2023 16:31

#LWS Liverpool is trending on X

starfruittree · 08/10/2023 16:23

Boiledbeetle · 08/10/2023 13:38

I know one of the people in this clip. At least he gets points for not hiding behind a mask because covid is on the rise again doncha know. He is 'be kind' to a degree beyond parody and a performer with a sizeable fan base of TQ nerds. He will have really convinced himself he's standing up against Nazis today. Ironic.

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ArabellaScott · 08/10/2023 16:21

BaronMunchausen · 08/10/2023 16:13

Brilliant. Thank you.

Ohyoudodoyou · 08/10/2023 16:20

BaronMunchausen · 08/10/2023 16:15

The Labour men shouting abuse were more frightening than the lads in black.

Those good men who'll get tanked up on in the White Star now and go home and commit domestic violence. The best of men on our streets, sorry their streets, fighting 'fascism' with mobile phones, 'progress' flag lanyards and pulled pork in their beards.

AdrianaLaCerva · 08/10/2023 16:19

Labour men enthusiastically abusing women. Such a great look. Nice one Keir 👍

duc748 · 08/10/2023 16:17

I saw guys with trades union tee shirts on both sides of the barrier.

Froodwithatowel · 08/10/2023 16:17

BaronMunchausen · 08/10/2023 16:13

She has a real point.

Starmer, look at the state of that?

BaronMunchausen · 08/10/2023 16:15

The Labour men shouting abuse were more frightening than the lads in black.

Froodwithatowel · 08/10/2023 16:05

VaddaABeetch · 08/10/2023 15:57

Of course these men know these women are not facials or nazis. It’s the worse thing they can think to say.

They’re like small children shouting big fat poopie heads. It’s a ‘meaningless’ insult.

This. ^^

The immaturity is front and centre in the obscenities and behaviours. This movement is a lovely bandwagon for dysfunction to enjoy a day out.

VaddaABeetch · 08/10/2023 16:02

Fascist not facial.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 08/10/2023 16:01

If they were proper activists they wouldn't just turn up to scream at women on a sunny day Simple's because it's close by. They hopped on Merseyrail from Heswall, went to Five Guys (not corporate at all) and wandered down before a pint in the Pump house.
Proper anarchists would be on hunger strike, not drinking Monster and living as little Japanese girl in an alternate AI world...

Haha, truly socking it to The Man.

VaddaABeetch · 08/10/2023 15:57

Of course these men know these women are not facials or nazis. It’s the worse thing they can think to say.

They’re like small children shouting big fat poopie heads. It’s a ‘meaningless’ insult.

BaronMunchausen · 08/10/2023 15:56

If they actually believe these women are Nazis, and there are way more on the counter side

They obviously don't - they're using Nazi and fascist as mere insult words. They give actual neo-fascists a wide berth.

BTW I've been told the women outnumbered the counter protesters, at least 60:40.

Maaate · 08/10/2023 15:54

So on some level they all know perfectly well that the women speaking aren't really fascists and women talking doesn't actually kill people.

It's just an excuse for them to abuse women and pretend that its justified

BaronMunchausen · 08/10/2023 15:49

DerekFaker · 08/10/2023 15:30

Wonder if they've been at the Labour thing?

Hope someone got up close enough to see who they were affiliated to. It's frightening that there are men like that in the Labour and Trade Union movement.

BlackForestCake · 08/10/2023 15:48

I do not wish to minimise the threatening behaviour of the counter-protesters, or the actual assaults on women that have taken place.

But there seems to be a lot of play-acting here. If they actually believe these women are Nazis, and there are way more on the counter side, why don't they break through the police lines and rush them?

That's what antifascists did to the Mosley movement in the 30s and the National Front in the 70s and it's one of the reasons fascism was never really able to get off the ground in Britain. That's what I'd do if I believed actual real Nazis were organising and their meetings were getting bigger all the time and I believed they were going to kill my friends.

So on some level they all know perfectly well that the women speaking aren't really fascists and women talking doesn't actually kill people.