Now it is offensive to have male and female uniforms in the NHS

I prefer scrubs, they are rectangular but so much cooler and more comfortable to wear.

I think tunics are better suited to hour glass. To accommodate my post menopausal midriff the size of my tunic is massive across my shoulders with my twiggy arms sticking out.

No one I work with wears the uniform clown trousers.

we had this in a sterile manufacturing site where we had to wear scrubs and it was mostly men, and some stupid idiot of a male manager said we just wear same as men. Women were splitting side seams of tunic as they couldn’t go over hips or gaping cleavage at top and pits because they were enormous at chest to get over hips. Bottoms falling down as waists too large for hip ratio and being told to leave area because we had to use safety pins to keep our pants up or cleavage covered
🙄 never mind tripping over trouser bottoms cos they were also way too long and we weren’t allowed to turn up bottoms . In my case my overly large cup size to waist and hips ratio meant my breasts were flattened and squeezed in.

and add to that the fabric was so cheap, nasty and thin white you could see underwear - I really didn’t enjoy having to look at some blokes polka dot or stripe boxers. The women refused point blank to strip down to undies and got reprimanded , but still refused

they realised eventually that they needed to accommodate women’s shape. And to get fabric that was modest . Who’d have thought 🙄🤷🏼‍♀️

As if anyone pays any notice to what colours the staff are wearing and what they mean???

See,we already wear scrubs, unisex only and they are awful, I have to size up so I can fit my boobs in and the trousers don't allow me to have a waist or big thighs (which i do) this means most staff buy their own.

Nursing staff in my trust have different colours depending on grade. So, I wear a dress as it is so much more comfortable than the thick scrubs (they are nowhere near as soft as theatre/ITU scrubs) it has darts at the front and back allowing me to move and bend. Honestly I see people's butt cracks/thongs in the scrubs 😕.

All I really want to know is who are the doctors and consultants.

But they aren't even allocated any colours.

Unifying the uniforms would save a lot of money

I hate to be a pharmacy person NHS. I look horrible in green.

I was rather surprised reading the article to discover it isn't centralised. or that the colours arent standard. For some reason I had assumed both of these facts to already be true!

They should be true!

The article doesn't say that, there is a bit about this being for the non-gendered items only, and mentions dresses elsewhere in the article.

I do agree that scrubs should be available for women's and men's bodies in women's and men's sizes.

However, OTOH I find that women's fitted T-shirts and the tunics when I used to wear them at work often didn't have enough room for a larger-chested woman and so I lean(ed) towards the smaller sizes of men's/unisex tops and I am not and was not the only one.

I wore scrubs on ICU for 20 years, they are comfortable,cool in hot wards, easy to clean and easy to move around in. Much prefer them to a dress which rides up when you were bending down to read drains.
As long as they are shaped for women and not v necked so you flash your boobs every time you lean forward, I have no issues.

It’s a non issue. Just the usual ill informed hysteria. This was rolled out earlier this year. Although I question the mails source because they have the colours and grades wrong.
There are seperate male and female scrubs. They are ergonomic and easier to work in. I also have a dress as well as scrub uniform.

Information released by the organisation also suggests the smart scrub and dress will have two waist pockets and one breast pocket, while trousers and shorts will have two cargo-style pockets

Mail says smart scrub and dress
So they might be keeping dresses as an option?.

Unisex is disappointing. I wore 1980's j-cloths as a student and unisex scrubs are even less flattering and comfortable than those. And I say that as someone who campaigned to be able to wear trousers.

I'm female with hips and breasts. My scrub tops are square and shapeless. I normally wear size 8-10 on tops but need a medium scrub top to be wide enough for my hips. There are no bust darts or waist definition, and the shoulders sit somewhere near my elbows.

I also need medium trousers to get the elasticated waist over my hips. They are then too long from waist to crotch. I can choose between turning them over at the top, imitating a Michelin tyre or leaving them long and letting the crotch seams cause friction burns on my inner thighs.

The NHS employs hundreds of thousands of nurses. Was it really to hard to find uniforms that would be comfortable for female staff?

Gender neutral clothing = default to male.

Invisible Women needs to be mailed to whoever made this decision.

Everything will be standardised.

That means a 5' 2" slim woman with boobs like me will struggle to fit anything and when they do will literally look like they are wearing a sack.

Thank the Lord of Gender for inclusion.

(Fuck off).

NHS staff need uniforms. Their uniforms need replacing from time to time. Changing the uniforms all at the same time may be a big initial expenditure, but in the long term it will only cost the same as the current uniforms.

I would bet large amounts of money* that "unisex" means "made for men, and non-men will just have to drag them on somehow".
I don't think women need body-con uniforms, but some space for hips and busts (without making it fall off your shoulders) would be nice.

*if I HAD large amounts of money.

What about the women who like wearing the dresses? The nurses on my mums ward looked great in them. Given that there is a choice of top and trousers and they are in a dress, they clearly want to wear one. Why remove that choice they look so smart.

What if you can only be your true self whilst wearing a tutu and a feather boa?
They just don't think these things through, do they?

So, no scrubs for doctors...

They can fuck right off before they've even started.

We've worn unisex uniforms in NHS Scotland since around 2010.
Much more professional & patients know who everyone is.

www.sehd.scot.nhs.uk/publications/Bulletin200911Uniform.pdf

They used to but made them unisex a few years back. They are a dreadful fit if you have curves as they do not take into count hips or bums. I'm referring to scrubs not sure about the blouses/tops that admin staff wear.

There is an anticipated 30% cost saving according to the NHS supply chain.
I can see why people feel like the OP about the unisex only sizing but I can see how it may lessen the euphoria some Trans identifying males currently experience in wearing their female uniform.

This isn’t anything new in most parts of the UK - we’ve had unisex uniforms for many years.

this is nothing new. but no option for doctors. a lot of us wear scrubs. what are we supposed to do?

NHS Scotland everyone wears that already. The only gender specific I can think of would be the maternity scrub you can get.