Trans: the new ideology of the ruling class (article)

Women cannot be 'sexist' against men in exactly the same way that black people cannot be 'racist' towards white people. If your hatred has no influence then it's irrelevant - it's just an opinion not a prejudice. Women are 50% of the entire human species, yet anything specific to female humans - such as healthcare - remains not only woefully under researched and poorly understood, but considered a niche issue. A specialist issue.

Careful! I regard Somerset and Wiltshire as the North.

I was actually born in the south! 😆

Assigned Northern at birth, eh?

the size of that bloke trying to get into the ladies loo!

and if anyone reads Debbie from the insurance company as a woman I'll eat my hat. I guarantee there will be a bunch of women who work with Debbie who are far from delighted about Debbie's freedom to invade their loos

I like women who swear.

But then I'm Northern and it's normal to me.

And that's the difference isn't it? Women do not have the experience of the sexual thrills involved for men about being in a 'secret' and 'taboo' place where women are undressed, pulling down their knickers, inserting tampons...

hence the men posting selfies of themselves in this fabulous and exciting sexual theme park and posting fantasies about getting to help little girls insert tampons ffs.

It's ridiculous to try and pretend this isn't part of it. Women and their bodies and lives are not walking resources for men to play with. And men being sad about that is not going to hurt them.

(I do love the photos though.)

Yes! No wonder men want to be in there with all that fun going on. It’s a wet dream. It’s a wonder we ever come out of the women’s loos, sounds like The Place To Be. “All the rage!” as my Mum used to say.

It got me thinking about gaggles of girls coming together in toilets - breaking up, making up, gearing up. It all happens in that space and I find it completely fascinating.

Yeah, not just a place to wee and defecate which is why men who think they are women want in there, can't have women having something that excludes them.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-leeds-47361066

I agree dean. It seems more often the case or not that it is a male poster who breezily declares that female people don’t use the toilet for anything other than urination and defecation.

minus mind blowing

plus typical of men in general

I have regularly changed in female toilets. Now and historically, most of the time I had no choice because I am too far away from home to 'just nip home and change'. I have had to change my young child in a female toilet as well, just as my mother did for me and my siblings.

I agree. I am not about to change clothes in a cubicle with a wet floor.

Honestly, the lack of understanding about usage of female toilets is mind blowing.

I used to cycle to work and had to change into my work clothes in the toilets. Sometimes I needed to freshen up.

I’m not staying in a cubicle and using bog water for that thanks.

Boundaries are not about your own actions but about how other people treat you. I do not want people with penises in public lavatories with my eleven year old grand-daughter. That is a boundary of mine which I expect other people not to cross.

I don't know about swearing but if that piece of shit had said what they posted to my face they would have had a nice red handprint on their fucking cheek.

Fuckwittery needs to be sworn about. Don't give a flying fuck if that makes me unladylike I really don't care what people think of me.

I find a nicely-timed occasional swear very impactful, it adds emphasis, keep it up please.

Thank you RavingStone. I have been told off often enough on this board for my swearing. Apparently, it means that some people will just not read my posts. I remember a number of scolding males who came and told us we were not 'ladylike' in our discourse.

I must admit to living for the past few years in a constant state of amazement at the direction some of these discussions take. It blows my fucking mind to see the fuckwittery. 😁

Helle I love your posts and the knowledge that your wonderful, bounteous, most gender-non-conforming use of "fucking" will make some of the decorum police reach for their smelling salts is brightening my evening.

Indeed Dean. I have seen that type of discussion and the declaration of being a 'feminist' from male people who sometimes visit this board before. It is not unusual. The complete lack of awareness of the reality of flooding periods, of caring duties, of being vomited on or having breasts literally explode with milk is very clear.

Oh, yes @fionamattel . There is another thing I have had to do quite often in a female toilet. Clean up leaked, no... exploded, breast milk when I have had to leave my infant for the day. In fact, I have had to fucking express milk in the toilet with a noisy machine. I really don't think that I should be subjected to the rhetoric of males such as Montgomery and co who mock female toilet habits and sounds on social media. Can you fucking imagine?

They would have a fucking field day describing the sounds that come from expressing. Or.... do you think that breast feeding women should also just, you know, self exclude if they have concerns about privacy?

And don't leave the fucking house if they might leak breast milk all over their shirts. OR. I know... we should just fucking wear that breast milk all day and smell if we don't want a male person to catch us in our wet bras drying our shirts. Hey wims... get over that shame and just accept that male gaze!!! It is just the same as a 'female' looking at you after all.

The fact that it also happens at work ... no fucking problem. Women should not bother breast feeding their children if they go back into the office. Forget it... such a great radical feminist position, isn't it.

It is truly remarkable the complete ignorance that some people have of the real lives of women and girls and the way they use the toilets and why they need to be same sex.

Exactly.

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